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Principled Conservatives, Not Clever Strategery - Rush Limbaugh
Rush Limbaugh ^
| July 1, 2003
| Rush Limbaugh
Posted on 07/01/2003 3:46:42 PM PDT by TLBSHOW
Principled Conservatives, Not Clever Strategery
by Rush Limbaugh
One of the conspiracy theories evolving out there has George W. Bush and Tom DeLay working together, while appearing to be at odds, to kill certain legislation conservatives don't like. The prescription drug bill would be a prime example.
Bush gets the opportunity to say publicly that he's for it, and gets the credit from Democrats for trying, but ultimately it doesn't happen. The close vote in the House of Representatives on their version of the prescription drug bill had no wiggle room in there, but there's all kinds of wiggle room in the Senate. So whatever the conference committee between the House and Senate produces, if it's not almost exactly what the House came up with in the first place, the House could vote it down, meaning there would be no prescription drug benefit added to Medicare at all.
Conservatives win when the votes are counted on the legislation, and Bush wins too, because he's been all over the map demanding it. There's not a person in this country who does not know that George W. Bush wants this prescription drug benefit on his desk now and wants to sign it. This is by no means, a slam-dunk, but it's a theory that more and more people are glomming onto. This is either a very fortunate accident or it's one of the most clever bits of maneuvering and strategery that we have seen yet.
I discuss the ins and outs of this in a little further detail in the audio link below, but I do issue this warning.
Some of you out there may be assigning mythic proportions to this man, George W. Bush, much like the liberals did with Bill Clinton, assuming he's doing everything for a reason, and that in the end, he's always going to snooker the other side.
I'd be a little careful about that, folks. I don't necessarily believe that there is any strategery going on here. If this bill dies, it won't be because of a secret plan.
It will be because of principled conservatives in the House of Representatives, conservatives like Rep. Mike Pence of Indiana, who went to the White House and told the president in person that he could not and would not support this bill.
TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Government
KEYWORDS: conservatives; medicare; principled; rushlimbaugh
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To: TLBSHOW
Oh yeah, at POST #370, "no one" is paying attention to the thread you have so ceremoniously seen fit to link.
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posted on
07/01/2003 4:08:12 PM PDT
by
onyx
(Name an honest democrat? I can't either!)
To: TLBSHOW; Marysecretary
Here's the post you linked me to:
I do like Bush and I know he's the best man for the job right now. I don't even know another conservative who could do the job. Do you? Have you any names?
I agree with that post. Do you?
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posted on
07/01/2003 4:08:27 PM PDT
by
Amelia
(It's better to light a single candle than to curse the darkness)
To: onyx
Oh, that's what this is all about!!!! I finally get it; he was upset because ELSE had a thread today and he wasn't the center of attention.
He LOVES attention, good or bad. All disruptors do.
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posted on
07/01/2003 4:09:41 PM PDT
by
Howlin
(I hope you don't have daughters.)
To: TLBSHOW
All Hail Rush Limbaugh. Bow down. Bathe in his reflected glory.
To: TLBSHOW
Hey, since you seem to be pushing what Rush says as good advice for everyone, when the election rolls around and Rush and Coulter and so forth are encouraging people to get to the polls and vote for Republicans, you are going to be leading the charge, right?
To: Howlin
Never mind my FReep mail! I get it!!!!!!! ROFLMBO!!!!!!!!
---- Principled Conservatives as in conservatives with principals don't think its a Clever Strategery. ----
That's our Toad, I mean Todd.
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posted on
07/01/2003 4:12:00 PM PDT
by
onyx
(Name an honest democrat? I can't either!)
To: Howlin
I don't need attention but W needs a good freeping.
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posted on
07/01/2003 4:12:23 PM PDT
by
TLBSHOW
(The Gift is to See the Truth)
To: Howlin
Far be it from me to actually agree with Todd, and you know my absolute distaste for CINOs, especially ones in my home state ;), but when I go home for lunch and actually hear Sean Hannity criticizing Republicans for their massive spending packages, I think moderate to mainstream Republicans (note I did not say conservatives) are starting to listen and pay attention to what this President is doing to our nation
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posted on
07/01/2003 4:13:38 PM PDT
by
billbears
(Deo Vindice)
To: trick question
You must have missed this post today:
To: Scenic Sounds
So will everyone if Bush gets his act together, if not he is toast!
Rush just said,,,,he doesn't care if the democrats are elected and it would be better because then the conservatives would hold them to account unlike Bush and his liberal democrat agenda.
186 posted on 07/01/2003 2:40 PM EDT by TLBSHOW (The Gift is to See the Truth)
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posted on
07/01/2003 4:13:50 PM PDT
by
Howlin
(I hope you don't have daughters.)
To: TLBSHOW
I hope Satan is bundled up tight, cause now you're a disrupter to print Rush's thoughts on this forum. LMAO The irony of it all. ROTF
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posted on
07/01/2003 4:15:55 PM PDT
by
DoughtyOne
(Vote RIPublican in 2004: Socialism's kinder gentler party: "We will leave no wallet left behind!")
To: onyx
Here's a great thread from today:
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posted on
07/01/2003 4:19:10 PM PDT
by
Howlin
(I hope you don't have daughters.)
To: Amelia
"That must be YOU, since you're the only one who seems to be listening to him"I beg to differ...
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posted on
07/01/2003 4:19:12 PM PDT
by
gorush
To: DoughtyOne
cause now you're a disrupter to print Rush's thoughts on this forumNice try, but he's a disruptor because his one and only "job" here is to divide conservatives.
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posted on
07/01/2003 4:20:00 PM PDT
by
Howlin
(I hope you don't have daughters.)
To: Howlin
Yes, I've been reading it off and on.
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posted on
07/01/2003 4:20:41 PM PDT
by
onyx
(Name an honest democrat? I can't either!)
To: TLBSHOW
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posted on
07/01/2003 4:40:46 PM PDT
by
deport
( BUSH/CHENEY 2004...... with or without the showboy)
To: Howlin
Rush just said...
...he doesn't care if the democrats are elected and it would be better because then the conservatives would hold them to account unlike Bush and his liberal democrat agenda.
In the year 2000 I stated the same thing. For that I was soundly criticized.
As a conservative, I watched the Democrats on bended knee no matter what President William Jefferson Blythe Clinton did. The Democrats had some pretty sick agenda items, but if they truly thought they were right, I could at least understand that. I could not understand them underwriting his treasonous activity. I could not underwrite his lying under perjury and multitude of other, what seemed like crimes to me. They were giving the man a pass on what they knew to be wrong. More than anything, that is what blew me away.
Then the year 2000 rolled around. Candidate George Bush was making statements on the campaign trail that seriously concerned me. They sounded like ultra moderate, read that liberal agenda policies. This concerned me so much so that I come up with the following hypothesis.
I stated that if a, quote's conservative President (by perception), were popular and proposed liberal legislation, his followers might likely grant him a free pass much as the Democrats had their President for his indiscretions. We're not talking about the same level of indiscretions, so don't go there. But pushing a $400 medication bill for Medicare is not a conservative act, yet right on que his supporters have fallen in line to praise him for this.
Look Howlin, I'm not here to disrupt. I do think it's patently absurd to call someone a disrupter for posting Rush's comments in disagreement with Bush, but give Bush a pass on some of these issues.
The truth is, if Bill Clinton were proposing some of this 'stuff', you would join me in criticizing him for it. That you join me now doesn't surprise me, but it does sadden me.
You take care.
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posted on
07/01/2003 4:41:02 PM PDT
by
DoughtyOne
(Vote RIPublican in 2004: Socialism's kinder gentler party: "We will leave no wallet left behind!")
To: DoughtyOne
Pardon me: That you won't join me now...
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posted on
07/01/2003 4:43:03 PM PDT
by
DoughtyOne
(Vote RIPublican in 2004: Socialism's kinder gentler party: "We will leave no wallet left behind!")
To: Howlin
I guess we gotta guess us some of these!!!!HUH? WHAT? Who are these people?
RUSH BUSH
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posted on
07/01/2003 4:43:53 PM PDT
by
arasina
(America: STILL the BEST! Offering Freedom, Justice and The Pursuit of Happiness Since 1776)
To: Howlin
heheheh
To: Howlin
Oh, I dont know Howlin, I think Bush does a pretty good job of that, all on his own.
Poltitics is not the breath of life to most voters.Most people have varying degrees of interest in the subject.
I would venture to guess that most people vote for whomever they think will do the best job, representing them, on issues they care deeply about.
IMHO, GWB is pushing the 50/50 mark for me now, and I dont consider the position of POTUS a parlor game.
I wish I could feel confident in voting for him for 2004.I don't.
Goodness knows, I am sick and tired of holding my nose while voting for POTUS.
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posted on
07/01/2003 4:44:21 PM PDT
by
sarasmom
(Punish France.Ignore Germany.Forgive Russia..)
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