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U.S. Suspends Military Aid to Nearly 50 Countries
Reuters ^ | July 1, 2003 | Reuters

Posted on 07/01/2003 8:51:32 AM PDT by Pern

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To: Pern
The way I understand this it's a theoretical list. Some were on the payroll, some not. I doubt some of these countries ever even received US military aid - take Switzerland: they're neutral. I can't imagine it even being legal for them to accept military aid.
101 posted on 07/01/2003 3:04:33 PM PDT by stck
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To: Hillarys Gate Cult; Gunrunner2
I tend to over-react to phrases such as Military or Foreign Aid. Of course we need to equip our "Allies" with American arms. Gunrunner2 lists a whole lot of good reasons for doing just that. I guess my beef is with the way we allow our so-called "Allies" to treat Americans as second-class citizens, worthy of derision. It seems our government is quick to kowtow to every third-rate power just to maintain lucrative contracts at the expense of our sovereignty and national pride. Let's face it, they (the 3rd world) need us more than we need them. I'm not suggesting we rub their faces in it, but it would be nice to see Uncle Sam stand for principle (not just a quick greenback) once in a while.
102 posted on 07/01/2003 3:24:50 PM PDT by semaj
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To: Pern
U.S. Suspends Military Aid to Nearly 50 Countries

Wow!!

This is a State Department Dream,.......the Brits 'win out on THIS one'....!!

'BP' gas/oil refineries all-round!!

/sarcasm

103 posted on 07/01/2003 3:46:17 PM PDT by maestro
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To: Gunrunner2
Your post is the first I've ever seen that so clearly explains why foreign military support exists. Other than maintaining stability and balance of power, there are a lot of reasons for these programs. The protectionists think we can just pull up a wall around America and hope the World doesn't explode. What do they say about nature and vacumns?

The U.S. has been trying to keep the Planet on an even keel and should continue trying (although not all our actions have been prudent or warranted).

104 posted on 07/01/2003 5:21:47 PM PDT by A Navy Vet ( b)
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To: Willie Green; Fred Mertz; Mitchell; Alamo-Girl; Nita Nupress; Squantos
FYI......ping!
105 posted on 07/01/2003 5:47:39 PM PDT by maestro
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To: optimistically_conservative
Take one example: the role of the UN Security Council. Under the UN Charter, the UN Security Council has primary responsibility for maintaining international peace and security. But the Rome Treaty removes this existing system of checks and balances, and places enormous unchecked power in the hands of the ICC prosecutor and judges. The treaty created a self-initiating prosecutor, answerable to no state or institution other than the Court itself.

Imagine a special prosecutor with the whole world as his target ... the road to hell is paved with good intentions.

106 posted on 07/01/2003 6:39:30 PM PDT by WOSG (We liberated Iraq. Now Let's Free Cuba, North Korea, Iran, China, Tibet, Syria, ...)
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To: WOSG
Imagine a special prosecutor with the whole world as his target ... the road to hell is paved with good intentions.

Exactly!!! Belgium's Universal Competency Law hasn't help the ICC's cause either.

International Criminal Court

James Cunningham, Deputy U.S. Representative to the United Nations
Statement on the Renewal of Resolution 1422 in the Security Council
New York, New York
June 12, 2003

Released by the U.S. Mission to the United Nations

Mr. President, we welcome the Security Council’s renewal for another year of the compromise on the International Criminal Court so painstakingly put together in Resolution 1422. Like any compromise, the resolution [1487] does not address all of our concerns about the Court. It does balance divergent positions and help ensure against any undermining of UN peace operations.

Like Resolution 1422, this resolution exempts states that are not parties to the Rome Statute but participate in UN operations from the ICC’s jurisdiction in a manner consistent with the UN Charter and with the 1998 Rome Statute. The resolution is consistent with the fundamental principle of international law -- the need for a state to consent if it is to be bound is respected by exempting from ICC jurisdiction personnel and forces of states that are not parties to the Rome Statute. It is worth noting that the resolution does not in any way affect parties to the Court, nor the Rome Statute itself. Nor does it, as some today suggested, elevate an entire category of people above the law. The ICC is not “the law.”

The provisions of this resolution are as relevant and necessary today as Resolution 1422 was a year ago. We all know that UN operations are important if the Council is to discharge its primary responsibility for maintaining or restoring international peace and security. We also all know that it is not always easy to recruit contributors and that it often takes courage on the part of political leaders to join military operations established or authorized by this Council. It is important that Member States not add concern about ICC jurisdiction to the difficulty of participating.

We have heard the arguments that this resolution is not necessary, and we do not agree. I would suggest that even one instance of the ICC attempting to exercise jurisdiction over those involved in a UN operation would have a seriously damaging impact on future UN operations. We are disappointed, of course, that not every Council Member shares our view. But we are not at all persuaded that our concerns are overstated or lack validity.

The United States yields to no country its historical leadership in the struggle for international justice and accountability for war crimes. After all, the United States was the first country to codify the laws of war – international humanitarian law – and an original participant in the creation of every successful international effort to date to adjudicate allegations of war crimes and crimes against humanity. It has been and will continue to be a strong supporter of the tribunals established under the aegis of this Council. But unlike the ICC, those tribunals are accountable to the Security Council.

The ICC is not a UN institution and, some would even say, challenges and weakens the UN Charter system and the Council’s place in it. The ICC is vulnerable at each stage of any proceeding to politicization. The Rome Statute provides no adequate check. “Having every confidence” in the ICC’s correct behavior, however that is defined, is not in our view a safeguard. We have already seen in other fora the potential for politically motivated criminal charges against national leaders and military officers, including over the recent Iraq hostilities.

Our primary concern, of course, is for American personnel that may find themselves subject to ICC jurisdiction even though the United States is not a party to the Rome Statute. As Ambassador Negroponte explained last year, “the power to deprive a citizen of his or her freedom is an awesome thing, which the American people have entrusted to their government under the rules of our democracy…[T]he International Criminal Court does not operate in the same democratic and constitutional context, and therefore does not have the right to deprive Americans of their freedom.”

The United States, therefore, has a fundamental objection to the ICC. In our view, it is a fatally flawed institution. Many others, including some of our closest friends, do not share that view. We are thoroughly familiar with our respective positions and understand that those positions are not going to change in the foreseeable future. We all need to acknowledge that fact and its implications. This resolution represents a compromise that respects the strongly held views of those who support the ICC and the equally strongly held views of those that do not. Such respect is important to maintain. This compromise, therefore, is important to maintain. Thank you, Mr. President.
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107 posted on 07/01/2003 7:12:49 PM PDT by optimistically_conservative
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To: Pern
Can't we just bomb these little countries while were at it and really piss them off.
108 posted on 07/01/2003 7:14:09 PM PDT by Porterville (I support US total global, world domination; how's that for sensitive??)
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To: Dr Warmoose
What are you some sort of Muslim?

No, I'm just not an idiot.

Everybody knows that the cure for this nation's drug addiction is to decriminalize it. Make it legal, and it will dry up overnight!

Appeals to authority (everybody? hardly) notwithstanding, decriminalization would be an absolute nightmare. Read about what China was like before opium was outlawed in the 1840s if you want some idea. And I say this as someone who had a relative on death-row for dealing drugs and killing a cop.

Drugs are a plague on society and should be dealt with accordingly. We're losing the War on Drugs for the same reasons we lost Vietnam. We're fighting with one hand tied behind our backs. If we had the cojones to adopt the suggestions I outlined above, the "Drug War" would be over in short order.
109 posted on 07/01/2003 7:25:12 PM PDT by Antoninus (In hoc signo, vinces †)
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To: Cathryn Crawford
I immediately looked for Columbia on this list and discovered that my suspicions were correct. Note that no military aid to them was suspended. That's very significant.

Hey now. The government HAS to ensure that only the right people are importing the drugs.

That takes money and arms, ya know.

110 posted on 07/01/2003 10:04:08 PM PDT by DAnconia55
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Some of the countries receive very little (relatively) in the amount of aid, but it means a lot to those poor, small countries and generates tremendous good will towards the United States.

Honduras, for example, will only get $1M or $2M. A lot to a working mom like myself, but a pittance to our Gov. Still, in Honduras, it makes a difference in education or medical care to people who have almost nothing.

My neighbors are from Honduras, originally, now naturalized citizens. Hard working, clean living, generous, industrious, caring people, devoted parents, great neighbors, wonderful friends. Couldn't ask for nicer folks.

Honduras has enthusiastically supported us in the WOT and signed on to help in any way it could during the Iraq War. I'd rather give aid to a country that could only send a few thousand men willing to die for us, than send sheckles to a bunch of panty waists poised with a dagger at our back.

111 posted on 07/01/2003 10:04:17 PM PDT by TheWriterInTexas
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To: maestro
Thanks for the heads up!
112 posted on 07/01/2003 10:12:02 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: All
International Criminal Court,http://www.hrw.org/campaigns/icc/ Letter to Colin Powell on U.S. Bully Tactics Against International Criminal Court June 30,2003 http://hrw.org/press/2003/06/usa063003ltr.htm 'New Justice' vs. Impunity
The International Criminal Court
http://www.hrw.org/editorials/2003/icc061803.htm






113 posted on 07/02/2003 2:08:57 AM PDT by anglian
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To: A Navy Vet
Thank you.
114 posted on 07/02/2003 4:47:02 AM PDT by Gunrunner2
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To: semaj
No problem, though I do disagree with your statement, "It seems our government is quick to kowtow to every third-rate power just to maintain lucrative contracts at the expense of our sovereignty and national pride."

As I stated before, the process is involved and US national security is the driving force behind FMS.

115 posted on 07/02/2003 4:49:00 AM PDT by Gunrunner2
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To: Pern
Sounds like as good a pretext as any for slashing foreign aid. We get to send a nice message with it... "Bill Clinton isn't President anymore. There will be no more global bullsh!t."
116 posted on 07/02/2003 5:28:33 AM PDT by tdadams
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