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I am talking about the generic right of secession in the face of oppression.

There is a right to revolution given us by God. The Constitution gives no right to unilateral secession and it never did. It has other remedies for dissatisfaction as I mentioned in my earlier post.

Do you really think men like Washington, Madison, Hamilton and Jay spent those months in Philadelphia, spending their own money, risking their reputations and even their health (Philadelphia in the summer then was a hot bed of Yellow Fever --- men of means always left the city in the summer months) birthing that document, to see it destroyed at the first political controversy or left to the tender mercies of a skillful and self-serving demogog? Those men were not fools. They understood people and understood government.

[Arkinsaw]

There is a right to revolution given us by God. The Constitution gives no right to unilateral secession and it never did. It has other remedies for dissatisfaction as I mentioned in my earlier post.

Thats your opinion. The Constitution says NOTHING about secession being prohibited and when the Constitution says nothing about a power being prohibited then that power is reserved to the States or the people respectively. You simply stating the opposite in no way convinces me of your position.

Do you really think men like Washington, Madison, Hamilton and Jay spent those months in Philadelphia.........They understood people and understood government.

Do you really think that they just spent years fighting for their right of self-determination and explaining consent of the governed to the world just to deny it to their own descendants? I think not.