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To: Blood of Tyrants
"In 1860, when the Southern states were moving toward secession, the Tariff of 1857 had reduced tariffs to the lowest level since 1812. The Morrill Tariff Act of 1861 was not passed until after several states had seceded, thus reducing the number of anti-tariff representatives in the Senate. No Southern state even mentioned the tariff in its act of secession. In short, the claim that secession occurred because of high tariffs is a historical fiction."

CR - "Were there Southerners on the Supreme Court?"
BoT - "Not after secession."
CR - No justices by choice, and besides, Marylander Roger B. Taney stayed on until his death in 1863. He had been a thorn in the side of all those who loved freedom since his infamous Dred Scott decision. (I say infamous in regard to the slavery issue; however, for those who believe in a plain reading of the 2nd Amendment, the Dred Scott decision has one of the best arguments for private ownership of firearms ever written by the Supreme Court.)

Odd, isn't it, that the Court you believe would have ruled in favor of confederate because they "had the RIGHT to secede," ruled exactly the opposite way in Texas v White just one year later. Hmmmm.

BoT - "Again, go to the 14th Amendment and read it. It denied voting to EVERY person who had been a Confederate soldier or had supported it in any way."

Really? Could you show me where it says that? In section 3 it prohibits former rebels from holding civil or military positions. It seems you've gotten a little caught up in your own rhetoric. Let me quote from Reconstruction and Rights:

"When the Civil War ended, leaders turned to the question of how to reconstruct the nation. One important issue was the right to vote. Hotly debated were rights of black American men and former Confederate men to vote.

"In the latter half of the 1860s, Congress passed a series of acts designed to address the question of rights, as well as how the Southern states would be governed. These acts included the act creating the Freedmen's Bureau, the Civil Rights Act of 1866, and several Reconstruction Acts. The Reconstruction Acts established military rule over Southern states until new governments could be formed. They also limited some former Confederate officials' and military officers' rights to vote and to run for public office. (However, the latter provisions were only temporary and soon rescinded for almost all of those affected by them.) Meanwhile, the Reconstruction acts gave former male slaves the right to vote and hold public office.

"Congress also passed two amendments to the Constitution. The Fourteenth Amendment made African-Americans citizens and protected citizens from discriminatory state laws. Southern states were required to ratify the Fourteenth Amendment before being readmitted to the union. The Fifteenth Amendment guaranteed African American men the right to vote."

Bot -"Where is the tyranny? In Lincoln's soul."

I can see you're going to be fun tomorrow. How can you possibly stand to live in a tyrannical hell hole like the United States? They need good people like you in Liberia. Think about it.

152 posted on 07/03/2003 8:55:03 PM PDT by capitan_refugio
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To: capitan_refugio
"Southern states were required to ratify the Fourteenth Amendment before being readmitted to the union.

So the Confederate States had somewhat sucessfully seceeded.

154 posted on 07/03/2003 9:38:53 PM PDT by azhenfud
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To: capitan_refugio
You probably think that Bush is a conservative, too!
160 posted on 07/04/2003 9:37:18 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Even if the government took all your earnings, you wouldn’t be, in its eyes, a slave.)
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