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To: Zionist Conspirator
When will conservatives stop the rhetoric that identifies libertarianism as conservatism's central tenet? Our liberal enemies can only call us hypocrites and laugh at us. Yet every movement towards immorality is portrayed by conservative/libertarian rhetoric as a "restriction of freedom." There are some issues more important than the amount of freedom or size of government. All societies are required by the Creator of the Universe to outlaw homosexual acts and make them punishable by death. That's what this is about.

I've only been on FR for half a year, and until then I never heard much from libertarians. Now I see that they are worse than liberals, as well as mostly psychotic. (the drugs?) They equate vice with liberty. At least the regular liberals don't pretend they want liberty.

The logcial result of libertarianism is totalitarianism, after society completely breaks down in anarchy, so there woudn't be much freedom anyway. Except for the top dog.

Someone put a link to this website tonight - if you haven't seen it yet, you might like it.

http://personal.pitnet.net/primarysources/

55 posted on 07/01/2003 12:24:44 AM PDT by First Amendment
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To: pram
I've only been on FR for half a year, and until then I never heard much from libertarians. Now I see that they are worse than liberals, as well as mostly psychotic. (the drugs?) They equate vice with liberty. At least the regular liberals don't pretend they want liberty.

At one time I actually admired libertarians for internal consistency (unlike liberals who are libertarian only when it comes to sin and fascist otherwise). But after learning a little more about them I must agree with a former professor of mine who told me libertarians are worse than liberals, although I write mostly of a different type of libertarian than you do.

The libertarians I have in mind are fans of Hitler (mach shemo), Mussolini, Franco, Pinochet, what-have-you, but when it comes to America they want to abolish the state and insist that the USA is an alliance of fifty "sovereign nations." Like the hippies who advocated anarcy for America while worshipping goose-stepping military dictatorships abroad, these people apologize for militarism by foreign dictators while wanting to emasculate America.

Many of these "libertarians" aren't really libertarians at all. They merely adopt libertarian rhetoric because "libertarianism" is the American counterpart of the "throne and altar" they support elsewhere. Some of these people actually want to abolish the State because the State allegedly causes chaos and "miscegenation." Therefore when the State is abolished chaos will end, human life will assume its "natural" rigid and regimented form, and white racial integrity will be assured. Not all libertarians are of this type (Joe Sobran and the "Liberty Forum" folks are who I have primarily in mind), but I have learned not to trust any libertarian.

People who worship Stalin and Mao (mach shemam) whould work for an "orderly" military dictatorship at home instead of throwing bags of excrement about. Likewise fans of Franco and Salazar should take off the tri-corner hats and stop thumping the Bill of Rights and work for Falangism at home. But of course, this runs against the hypocritical grain.

The saddest case though are sincere religious people who acknowledge the sovereignty of G-d who have been duped into thinking that the G-d's greatest concern is the "right" to smoke! While religious people run around fighting other people's battles against "the nanny state," they are left absolutely alone by their "allies" when it comes to great moral issues.

Homosexuality is a capital offense. It has nothing to do with "liberty" or the size of government.

73 posted on 07/01/2003 8:14:22 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (G-d's laws or NONE!!!)
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