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The Vast Dubya & DeLay Conspiracy
Rush Limbaugh ^ | June 30, 2003 | Rush Limbaugh

Posted on 06/30/2003 3:59:40 PM PDT by TLBSHOW

The Vast Dubya & DeLay Conspiracy

June 30, 2003

Depending on where you go and in what circles you travel, conservatives are livid with the Bush administration. Some, more so than others, are furious over the size of the federal budget, the failing to rein in any kind of spending, tax cuts for people who don't pay taxes, the Medicare prescription drug benefit, the list continues - and there’s a great deal of head scratching going on.

I came across an Associated Press story over the weekend that attempts to shed some light on what’s happening, which you can hear me read in the audio links below. However, the story seems to imply there’s a conspiracy between the White House and House Majority Leader Tom DeLay, R-Texas.

Here’s just one excerpt: “DeLay has become the most identifiable representative of the party's right wing, and the two Texans have had a sometimes scrappy relationship. Clashes may become more frequent as Bush moves beyond his current phase of fund raising among loyal Republicans and shifts his attention to the general electorate, analysts suggest. At the same time, Bush and his advisers are mindful that if they go too far, they could alienate conservatives whose support he needs. ‘Bush is carefully picking and choosing his fights,’ said GOP consultant Scott Reed. ‘There's a healthy back and forth between the White House staff and DeLay that is mutually beneficial to both.’”

The story continues to suggest that Bush is telling DeLay to go ahead and stop what he’s trying to do - on purpose. The idea being that Bush can thus claim credit for supporting whatever measure, while DeLay and other conservatives can point to victory for blocking its ultimate passage. A caller later asked: “Isn't this the same strategy that Bush used on campaign finance reform, only he is counting on the Supreme Court to shoot it down?” You can hear my answer below.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: bush; conservatives; conspiracy; delay
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
Hi, Daughter. Lurking out here, but laying low. ; *)
261 posted on 06/30/2003 10:53:48 PM PDT by Southflanknorthpawsis
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To: justshe
When your country is in the toilet and Democrats are flushing as fast as they can and the Republicans are providing buckets of water to help out with the low-flush toilet, patience and incrementalism is not an option.
262 posted on 06/30/2003 10:54:02 PM PDT by john the bowler
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To: justshe
Spot on and in spades !

The " true bluers " don't know what a Conservative is. They don't even know that the GOP is not now and never was a solely Conservative political party. Heck, they don't understand politics at all ! If there's one thing that can be said for them, though, is that if an article/editorial/talking head bashes President Bush, they post it, quote from it, and lap it up. If and when President Bush does/says anything at all, that they've been whinging about, that they want, it isn't good enough/fast enough/right enough ... not ever, even when it's exactly what they've previously claimed they wanted.Some people see a glass as 1/2 full, others see it as 1/2 empty; those people see a totally empty glass into perpituity.

263 posted on 06/30/2003 10:55:04 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Mo1
The way he looked into the camera and said it at the time? Yes, I had questions. Wish I could find something on Real Player and you could judge for yourself.
264 posted on 06/30/2003 10:55:09 PM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: john the bowler
You said a mouthful.
265 posted on 06/30/2003 10:55:24 PM PDT by Fred Mertz
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To: TLBSHOW
Barbra Striesand and you know it. LOL
266 posted on 06/30/2003 10:56:20 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
Bush kisser? I wish.....sigh.
267 posted on 06/30/2003 10:57:48 PM PDT by oreolady (George will be there for us if we give him TIME.)
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To: nopardons
Oh Bravo! Great post my dear friend!
Checkmate, match, game over.
268 posted on 06/30/2003 10:58:43 PM PDT by ladyinred (The left have blood on their hands.)
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To: Howlin
It does kinda shoot the claims of vast support in the foot.
I have no idea if the lack of support is over fear for our sovereignty as is the case with me. And I have no idea if Morris's claim that it is essential that Bush be at 50% at this stage of the game is not him talking out of the top of his head. I don't like him much and I think the advice to Bush to advertise his record is the worse I have heard.
269 posted on 06/30/2003 10:58:48 PM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: nopardons; oreolady; justshe
Democracy Corps Poll conducted by Greenberg Quinlan Rosner Research (D). Latest: June 17-23, 2003. N=1,011 likely voters nationwide. MoE ± 3.1.

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"I know it is a long way off, but thinking about the elections in 2004, if the election for president were held today and the candidates were Republican George W. Bush and the Democratic nominee for president, for whom would you vote: Republican George W. Bush or the Democratic nominee for president?"
George
W. Bush
Demo-
cratic
Nominee
Other
(vol.)
Not
Sure
% % % %
6/03 51 40 2 7
5/03 52 40 1 6
1/03 48 41 1 10
7/02 52 37 1 10
6/01 44 44 3 9


270 posted on 06/30/2003 10:58:53 PM PDT by Howlin (A vote for Bush in 2004 is just that -- a vote for Bush!!!!!)
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To: MissAmericanPie
He was in office a little over 3 MONTHS and you really believe he wasn't going to run again because of a look on his face?

Did ya ever think maybe he didn't want to discuss something that was a few years away?

Also, what stupid reporter would even ask him that question
271 posted on 06/30/2003 10:59:44 PM PDT by Mo1
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To: john the bowler
You also can't turn the Titanic on a dime.

Incrementalism is the ONLY way.

You just aren't getting YOUR issues addressed and fixed as fast as you want them to be. Patience is a virtue. There has been progress made. This one fact alone (although a bit out of date, as GWB has had some apptments confirmed)should tell you about the long, uphill task we have of fixing things:

OK.....here's the deal.

Who picked the judges?

Johnson 1
Ford 5
Nixon 7
Carter 38
GW Bush 59
Vacancies 95
Reagan 142
Bush 156
Clinton 359


272 posted on 06/30/2003 11:00:08 PM PDT by justshe (Educate....not Denigrate !)
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To: TLBSHOW
Nope! I Could care less....

Let's get this right okay? You mean, I could NOT care less.

273 posted on 06/30/2003 11:00:21 PM PDT by ladyinred (The left have blood on their hands.)
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To: ladyinred
Thanks; I just calls 'em as I sees 'em and let the chips fall where they may. :-)
274 posted on 06/30/2003 11:01:58 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: MissAmericanPie
Um, see 270.

And this:

Monday, June 30 2003
BUSH AND THE BASE: Last week provided somewhat of a measuring stick for President Bush among his conservative base.

Social conservatives agonized over Supreme Court rulings upholding affirmative action and striking down sodomy laws across the country and were disappointed when President Bush issued a statement "applauding" the former and making no public mention of the latter.

Meanwhile, fiscal conservatives fumed as they watched the Republican-led House and Senate pass a new $400 billion prescription drug entitlement last week at President Bush's urging. Donald Lambro details the growing anger among fiscal conservatives in the Washington Times this morning.

There have also been recent rumblings among pro-life groups who are adamantly opposed to President Bush's possible nomination of Al Gonzales to the Supreme Court.

So is President Bush in the process of alienating his base? Not according to this article in today's NY Times. Despite the disagreements many of the narrowly-focused constituencies on the right have with President Bush, there seems to be an overall appreciation of his character, integrity, and his unwavering commitment to U.S. national security. There also seems to be an understanding that Bush, like Reagan, is helping to facilitate a continued shift toward conservatism in U.S. public opinion:

Today, many conservatives say, American public opinion is shifting their way, so there is no reason to be impatient — or to pressure Mr. Bush into doing things before the election that might hurt him next year.

"The Republicans are looking at decades of dominance in the House and the Senate, and having the presidency with some regularity," Mr. Norquist said. "So if this year the tax cut isn't the one we wanted — no biggie. There's a sense that we can afford to wait."

This tolerance of Bush only runs so deep, of course, and if the economy doesn't enjoy a robust recovery the President can't afford to have conservative groups sitting on their hands next November.

Meanwhile, the upside for conservative groups in the coming election is bigger than ever: if the economy does spring back to life and conservatives come out en masse for the President, it could produce a landslide victory and an historic mandate for Bush and his conservative agenda. - T. Bevan 8:44am

275 posted on 06/30/2003 11:02:30 PM PDT by Howlin (A vote for Bush in 2004 is just that -- a vote for Bush!!!!!)
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To: Fred Mertz
I voted for Bush Sr. twice, and cursed that shrimp Perot for the next eight years. Thankfully Clinton, being his own worst enemy, was not as able to press the liberal agenda as far as Bush Jr. is.
276 posted on 06/30/2003 11:03:12 PM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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To: nopardons
Thanks.....but you said it better.

There are also some that don't give a hoot about ANY glass....half full, half empty, or completely empty. They just like to smash the glass for the thrill of the attention they crave.
277 posted on 06/30/2003 11:03:58 PM PDT by justshe (Educate....not Denigrate !)
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To: Howlin
Thanks, Howlin.

Dick Morris must have missed that poll.
278 posted on 06/30/2003 11:04:44 PM PDT by justshe (Educate....not Denigrate !)
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To: justshe
No, you can't turn the Titanic on a dime if you fear upsetting the drink glasses provided by the cruiseline.
279 posted on 06/30/2003 11:06:26 PM PDT by john the bowler
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To: justshe
Thank you Ronald Reagan! Thank you for posting that. How I wish he were able, he would stand up and tell all of these whiners how it is. Such a smart wonderful man, and Bush is doing the very same thing. Perhaps he learned from him, or perhaps he is just that same kind of guy. (boy, that'll drive them wild won't it?)
280 posted on 06/30/2003 11:06:29 PM PDT by ladyinred (The left have blood on their hands.)
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