The Vast Dubya & DeLay Conspiracy

Rush Limbaugh ^ | June 30, 2003 | Rush Limbaugh

[TLBSHOW]

The Vast Dubya & DeLay Conspiracy

June 30, 2003

Depending on where you go and in what circles you travel, conservatives are livid with the Bush administration. Some, more so than others, are furious over the size of the federal budget, the failing to rein in any kind of spending, tax cuts for people who don't pay taxes, the Medicare prescription drug benefit, the list continues - and there’s a great deal of head scratching going on.

I came across an Associated Press story over the weekend that attempts to shed some light on what’s happening, which you can hear me read in the audio links below. However, the story seems to imply there’s a conspiracy between the White House and House Majority Leader Tom DeLay, R-Texas.

Here’s just one excerpt: “DeLay has become the most identifiable representative of the party's right wing, and the two Texans have had a sometimes scrappy relationship. Clashes may become more frequent as Bush moves beyond his current phase of fund raising among loyal Republicans and shifts his attention to the general electorate, analysts suggest. At the same time, Bush and his advisers are mindful that if they go too far, they could alienate conservatives whose support he needs. ‘Bush is carefully picking and choosing his fights,’ said GOP consultant Scott Reed. ‘There's a healthy back and forth between the White House staff and DeLay that is mutually beneficial to both.’”

The story continues to suggest that Bush is telling DeLay to go ahead and stop what he’s trying to do - on purpose. The idea being that Bush can thus claim credit for supporting whatever measure, while DeLay and other conservatives can point to victory for blocking its ultimate passage. A caller later asked: “Isn't this the same strategy that Bush used on campaign finance reform, only he is counting on the Supreme Court to shoot it down?” You can hear my answer below.

[Howlin]

He did say it, he didn't seem to be kidding at the time.

Total BS.

Here is the ONE and ONLY paragraph in the AP report that addresses what you claimed:

WASHINGTON (AP) - On his 96th day in the White House, President Bush (news - web sites) was in no hurry to envision a second term - ``IF I run again,'' he demurred - or to dazzle detractors in his first.

Did it ever occur to you that Bush didn't want to discuss his relection on his 96th day in office?

[nopardons]

And you aren't a political naif either ! BRAVA ... you actually understand far more than you give yourself credit for.

It's the dog in the manger so called " Conservatives ", who abjure political reality in favor of childish day dreams, who are neither Conservative, nor capable of seeing the light at the end of the tunnel. What the really, really, REALLY want is a benevolent tyrant with all encompassing power; the powers and the will to wave a magic wand and do whatever it is ( and IMMEDIATELY ! ) they yearn for. What they'll get, if they aren't careful, is yes, Hillary and/or someone just as bad, if not worse, than she is.

[nopardons]

The fringers just grasp at straws; they haven't anything else.

[TLBSHOW]

``If I run again, I would like to carry California. But that was my aspiration the first time I ran as well,'' said Bush, who could have avoided last year's Florida recount if he had claimed California's huge cache of electoral votes.

Bush said he feels too honored and excited to be in the White House now to think about the eventual fight to keep it.

``The idea of talking about re-election, with my frame of mind the way it is, it's foreign right now.''

AP

[justshe]

"Am I the only one who recalls Bush saying he wanted prescription drugs for seniors while he was running?"

No....he said it. I heard it......LOTS of people have posted they heard it.

And don't let the naysayers know that there is going to be means testing too. Frist made that clear yesterday. He also made it clear that he applauds the CHOICE seniors will have and supports moving towards privatization of Medicare.

[Howlin]

That is truly amazing to see; no way did he say he might not run again. As she said today, she wishes that were true, as Bush is the most dangerous president we've ever had.

[TLBSHOW]

Here is the ONE and ONLY paragraph in the AP report that addresses what you claimed
......

oh really the one and the only? LOL

Come on and finish the whole story Howlin! oh and it brought tears to my eyes thinking how good things started!

[ladyinred]

Guess what, I do have to pay for this too, more than you know. I don't know how old you are, nor does it matter, but I can't be on Medicare for quite a few years yet myself.

I should have clarified that I don't think you are personally mean, I really don't. So for that, I apologize. I was speaking in general about some posters here who are calling people names.

[Jhoffa_]

I should have clarified that I don't think you are personally mean, I really don't. So for that, I apologize.

That's nice, but it's not necessary. Thanks though.

But this is a big concern... Yeah, sure.. algor would have been horrible, Hillary would have been worse. No argument.

Regardless though, someone (some generation or generations) is going to take it in the neck for this entitlement. Just like SS.

Regardless of who's in office, it's going to expand and take on a life of it's own.

You know how FEDGOV is, this will become the new "third rail" as boomers age.

I think once you do this, there's no turning back.. Ever.

[Fred Mertz]

...but I can't be on Medicare for quite a few years yet myself.

There you go relying on gummint handouts again.

[Howlin]

People are picking and choosing what they "see," aren't they?

Quite amazing. How anybody could believe that Bush said he might not run again because he didn't want to discuss his reelection on his 96th day in office tells me one thing: they are actively LOOKING for something to trash him with.

[nutmeg]

read later bump

[Howlin]

I'd bet that there are plenty of people here who are bitching about the government while taking a government payout.

[nopardons]

You bet they are, or at least one family member has/ is taking from the trough.

Me ? Not a fathering do I take, nor me or mine. :-)

[Fred Mertz]

I'd bet that there are plenty of people here who are bitching about the government while taking a government payout.

The mafia took 10%. The government takes 40-50 per cent.

You are so blind.

[c-b 1]

Guess what, I do have to pay for this too, more than you know. I don't know how old you are, nor does it matter, but I can't be on Medicare for quite a few years yet myself.

The thing I don't like about it is that my grandchildren will still be paying for it long after you, and I are dead, and gone. I can't remember a government program that ever did anything but get bigger, and more expensive.

[oreolady]

This thread is so laughable, to see extremely intelligent people being pessimistic about our wonderful president, those that would toss him out without considering his long-term goals. (and some of his limitations).
I wish I was brilliant enough to list all his accomplishments, not just whine about what he has done that I didn't agreee with.
It also reflects badly to the press and rat web forums,
DIVIDE AND CONQUER-the OLDEST method in the world, and we are supposed to be to intelligent to fall for it!
At least the dems stick together, I have to admire them for that.
Myself, I think GWB is brilliant, and although am concerned with the expansion of government overspending, am really certain he is pulling the democratic issues out from under them-brilliant. Altho he has to take some heat over it, in the long run, I believe he wants to revamp Medicare, (and possibly IRS?) but not until his second term and IF he can get a bullet proof majority in the senate.
And for the staunch conservatives will be able hopefully in his second term will be able to further his goals of a smaller government.
WE have to remember that he has only been in power 2.5 years, even getting a late start and having several world crises to manage. IMHO has done a wonderful job with foreign relations.
Somewhere I read that presidents, in their first term NEVER get as much accomplished as their second term.
As far as calling him liberal ratty rat, Todd, go to DU to see how they laugh at you.

[TLBSHOW]

Yes in deed they do laugh at me. But then again they laugh at all FReepers as if you didn't know.

[nopardons]

Oh yeah, sure, of course he is " the most damgerous president we've ever had " ... in a nightmare or a delusional state of mind, m-a-y-b-e . LOL

Hmmmmmmmmmmmm ... Bush the younger are "TMDPWEH " as opposed to Wilson, Truman, Grant, FDR, JFK, LBJ, Clinton, and Carter ? As against Harding, Buchanan, Tyler, and Jackson ?

You know, after reading posts here, I wonder just how much actual American history most people know and then I shake my head and realize that it isn't nearly enough. :-(

[justshe]

President Reagan said it best, imo.

Bold and underline formatting is mine.

~~ Ronald Reagan, in his autobiography, An American Life

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"When I began entering into the give and take of legislative bargaining in Sacramento, a lot of the most radical conservatives who had supported me during the election didn't like it.

"Compromise" was a dirty word to them and they wouldn't face the fact that we couldn't get all of what we wanted today. They wanted all or nothing and they wanted it all at once. If you don't get it all, some said, don't take anything.

"I'd learned while negotiating union contracts that you seldom got everything you asked for. And I agreed with FDR, who said in 1933: 'I have no expectations of making a hit every time I come to bat. What I seek is the highest possible batting average.'

"If you got seventy-five or eighty percent of what you were asking for, I say, you take it and fight for the rest later, and that's what I told these radical conservatives who never got used to it.

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Memories may 'light the corner of your mind'.......but 'tis always a good thing to keep them HONEST memories, no?