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To: Smogger
If you want to get rid of illegal immigration YOU PUNISH THE COMPANIES THAT HIRE ILLEGAL IMMIGRANTS.

That we are in total agreement with.

Prop 187 (and I voted for it) was an unmitigated disaster for the Republican party in California.

Not being from California, I'll leave that discussion to someone who is. But I do know that Prop 187 passed something like 60-40, and it is believed would pass by the same margin again today. If a Republican came along and campaigned on that issue, it's my opinion he'd most likely win as Wilson did.

Historically the party has never received more than 25 to 35% of the hispanic vote nationwide, and unless Republicans become democrat clones and promise to give away the store, they never will.

118 posted on 06/30/2003 9:30:08 AM PDT by Reaganwuzthebest
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To: Reaganwuzthebest
Not being from California, I'll leave that discussion to someone who is. But I do know that Prop 187 passed something like 60-40, and it is believed would pass by the same margin again today. If a Republican came along and campaigned on that issue, it's my opinion he'd most likely win as Wilson did.

Wrong. Pete Wilson was a lame duck at the time he campaigned for Prop 187. It would have passed whether he campaigned for it or not. All it did was associate the Republican party with a divisive issue, and allow state Democrats to use fear to seperate Mexicans in this state from their vote.

Historically the party has never received more than 25 to 35% of the hispanic vote nationwide, and unless Republicans become democrat clones and promise to give away the store, they never will.

Wrong again. There is no reason Republicans can't expand their percentage of the Hispanic vote, and we don't have to give away the store to do it. There are plenty of reasons, though, that we can lose that percentage and see it shrink down to about the 10% or so of blacks that vote Republican; hubris, arrogance, and xenophobia chief among them.

137 posted on 06/30/2003 10:33:54 AM PDT by Smogger
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