Jonah Goldberg: Bush bashers should get facts straight before crying 'liar'

Union Leader ^ | 6/30/03 | Jonah Goldberg

[Marysecretary]

Good article! I like the way this man writes and thinks.

[sinkspur]

I am indeed sorry, Sinkspur. I guess I need to model myself after a thoughtful, nuanced person like you who rejects knee-jerks partisanship.

You're scrounging to save some face over your anti-war stance.

Hug somebody from ANSWER, will ya?

[Captain Kirk]

What? I have been proven right in my prediction that this would turn into a quagmire. You, on the other hand, are notorious on FR as a very poor prophet. That kind of thing is usually true of people who wear partisan blinders in each and every case.

[sinkspur]

I have been proven right in my prediction that this would turn into a quagmire.

Two months does not a quagmire make.

You, on the other hand, are notorious on FR as a very poor prophet.

I predicted we'd win the war, which we did. That's all.

You're really defensive over all this.

The American people continually express support for the war even if WMDs are never found.

Some people come on FR to verify their existence by being right.

Others come on to learn things, to have fun, and to poke an occasional stick at those who have to be "right."

Keep thinking you're right, Captain.

[CyberAnt]

"damage was done"

You are so right ... and the mainstream media never CORRECTS or factually restates any new revelations which might prove them incorrect or just plain wrong.

[=Intervention=]

Hahahahah! The good old New York Times line...quagmire alert! Occupation does take time. Look at Germany and Japan, and those were Western countries. Of course, if you're only hearing 1/2 the story (xx soldiers killed today) without any context as to how many used to be killed per day or the infrastructure building going on or the cooperation of the local authorities, I can almost see the knee-jerk quagmire bit.

[Stultis]

No. What's funny is that you seem to think everybody in the world was wrong but you!

LOL! And he only recently realized what it was he wasn't wrong about. (Tomorrow he won't be wrong about something completely different.)

[Captain Kirk]

I am hanging my head in shame. You are both right. I need to follow the thoughtful provided by Sinkspur: modest, nuanced self-effacing, and balanced. As we all know, of course, Sinkspur does not view the world through the lens of party loyality but through the lens of unafraid principle.

[optimistically_conservative]

What? I have been proven right in my prediction that this would turn into a quagmire.

One of the requirements for a quagmire is the desire to extricate oneself from the difficult or precarious situation.

Since we don't want to get out, but remain and work through the difficulties, begrudgingly taking our losses, I don't see how you can have already, after 2 months, thrown up your hands shilling the "quagmire" line.

But perhaps, after 6 months or a year, you may be proven prophetic.