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Business and Labor Leaders Call on President to Halt Recall Effort
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Posted on 06/29/2003 8:58:25 PM PDT by chance33_98

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To: kellynla
If his movie tanks at the box office this week-end, as some reviews already indicate it may.. Who Knows?

The more the merrier..

61 posted on 07/01/2003 5:10:11 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi..Support FR . "California-Fighting the rising tide of socialism" . http://www.DRAFTTom.com)
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To: chance33_98
Heh, heh, heh, heh...guess the leftist filth is getting nervous...

I love to watch the left on the run...I love to watch 'em sweat...

62 posted on 07/01/2003 5:14:15 PM PDT by Im Your Huckleberry
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To: NormsRevenge
Well I am afraid that if he does run, he will kill any chance of McClintok getting elected. I only hope that if he does run and he does get elected that he will prove to be a conservative and not another Rino. It is absolutely imperative that we get someone in Sacramento that will kick ass and take names or this state will implode!
63 posted on 07/01/2003 5:37:02 PM PDT by kellynla ("C" 1/5 1st Mar Div Viet Nam '69 & '70 Semper Fi)
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To: chance33_98
One question for these alleged conservatives: Sulla came to power because the Marians did not know when they were relatively well off and that it was time to quit their excesses.

Both Sullan and Marian forces were establishmentarian, but the republic that each faction was striving to bend to their interests had less than 50 years remaining when Sulla tried, in vain, to restore by force the traditional Roman sense of nobility and common purpose.

Ah, what's the use! The acceptance that most of you sheeple have for the lessons of history keys on how entertaining it can be made for you. Some of you may watch the TNT mini series "Caesar" and be impressed by Ted Turner's spin that dictators who learn how to replace republics via clever sound bites ain't all that bad!

-Avoiding_Sulla

64 posted on 07/01/2003 5:46:50 PM PDT by Avoiding_Sulla (You can't see where we're going when you don't look where we've been.)
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To: kellynla
Let's let the cards play out and all we can do is hope for the best. It is obvious that the state's courts and state parties' leaderships are against the decent hard-working folks that built and sustain this state.

I hate to think that folks believe a man who reads lines from scripts is better suited to fixing the major problems that face this state than a man who has given himself to the pursuit of integrity and honesty and fair dealing in govt ..

But you know Californians. 1/3 don't want to bother voting (It's doesn't matter if I vote), 1/3 take their voter rights seriously, and 1/3 are bussed from polling place to polling place and kept in a "govtinduced" money high to keep the demRats in power.

65 posted on 07/01/2003 5:47:29 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi..Support FR . "California-Fighting the rising tide of socialism" . http://www.DRAFTTom.com)
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To: JeanS
Bush can't call this off. What do they want him to do? Write an executive order?

I suppose he could threaten to hold up federal aid to California; Congressional Republicans would support him out of Party loyalty and Democrats would support him because it's their guy he's protecting. But if he did something like that, it would be tantamount to admitting that American democracy really is just a dog and pony show.

66 posted on 07/01/2003 5:51:24 PM PDT by JoeSchem (Okay, now it works: Knight's Quest, at http://www.geocities.com/engineerzero)
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To: Landru
Forgive me here if I am not up on my constitutional law--but what the hell does the President of the U.S. have to do with a recall initiative in the Peoples Republic of California??

If there is something I am missing here, please enlighten me.

67 posted on 07/01/2003 6:54:54 PM PDT by scholar
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To: chance33_98
These "leaders" must think that our country is a dictatorship. Perhaps they are so busy making money that they haven't had time to learn about the process of government. This is just another example of the dumbing down of the United States!
68 posted on 07/01/2003 7:05:10 PM PDT by leprechaun9
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To: leprechaun9
IT is sickening to watch, indeed.

People out there really think that there is a tooth fairy and a welfare fairy and all that.

It's what our newer "leaner" more compassionate govt has become. A monstrosity of antiquated programs that no one can escape. "EnTitlement Nation"

Sometimes, I wonder how stupid this nation could be made in 50 years.

Then, I look at Jimmah Car\htah in the White House and China in Panama and the Western Hemisphere of influence.

Then, I see 8 years of Bubba and the shakedown artists selling off secrets and making sweetheart deals left and right... and barely a peep from most folks.

Is it that our enemies are that smart or did they just have to bring us down to their level first? The educational system in our nation is held hostage by unions and thugs. Our nation's sources of good-paying jobs are shipped offshore or performed here legally by folks who make a pittance of what American-born citizens might make.

Talk about discrimination. Does Corporate America really hate this country that badly, and if so, why? Has the same govt set of players on the House and Senate and White House teams, frankly killed our collective Golden Goose, by foisting FRee trade thru GATT, NAFTA, and all the visa hocus pocus legislation?All the while, telling us how it will be good for All of us. The lowliest turd does rise with the tide along with the rest of the turds,after all. I'd prefer not to live in a sewer myself, tho.

Dumbed down.. We couldn't get much dumber.. or can we?

Immigration.. Illegal Immigration .. Benefits paid out to Illegal Immigrants. Now, why do we do this? The states blame the Feds for lax border enforcement or prosecution. So, then, why do states then turn around and spend money to support them, and why do we then allow these same illegals to get same rate tuition at state universities.

I don't know , I get all confused these days. Words used to mean something.. Laws used to mean something.. Voters voting on initiatives like 187 and 209 and passing them used to matter.

I guess the message is.. I'm not quite dumb enough to believe all this crap.. much less, keep putting up with it.

69 posted on 07/01/2003 7:24:51 PM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi..Support FR . "California-Fighting the rising tide of socialism" . http://www.DRAFTTom.com)
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To: leprechaun9
That's because they want a dictatorship (or think one will do well for them). They'd be quite happy of anyone who would help them continue to stay on top. Politician or dictator; what's the diff? It's only words to them. Once bought they figure he'll do their bidding. Unconstitutional, not for us! The difference between outright fascism and the socialist left that dominates our state today is almost totally obscured -- that is until you see people like this sticking their heads up and going outside our state to beg W to not let us desert their sinking boat.

The leadership of the two parties make up one ruling party -- RepublicRats. Just because it's unofficial doesn't make it a fiction.

70 posted on 07/01/2003 7:34:54 PM PDT by Avoiding_Sulla (You can't see where we're going when you don't look where we've been.)
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To: scholar
"Forgive me here if I am not up on my constitutional law--but what the hell does the President of the U.S. have to do with a recall initiative in the Peoples Republic of California??"

Ummmmm why nothing, nothing to do a'tall.
But then again that's the whole point though, don'tcha know.

This is one slick attempt to deflect & obfuscate the very real *issues* that were created by a sleezy Liberal-Socialist Governor which now has delivered -- what was once a wealthy & prosperous -- CA to the brink of destruction.

This kind of mo hasn't been seen since the Liberal-Socialists tried getting the Bent1 off the hook for perjury.
Remember?
What'd Clintigula's mediots & assorted quislings try convincing us it was all about via a whole page ad run in every major daily in the USA?
"It's only about sex."
~eh?
See it??

"If there is something I am missing here, please enlighten me."

I think that about covers it Angel, the rest is up to you.

...you're the scholar, after all. :^)

71 posted on 07/02/2003 6:06:09 AM PDT by Landru
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