[Antoninus]

I don't want this on the agenda. We make the gay agenda relevant only because we consistantly give it the stage at the expense of issues that actually could get us votes.

Too bad. It's an issue and I for one intend to push all my elected officials on it very hard. Taking a pro-traditional marriage stance is a net win for us if done properly. Every time the issue's been put to a vote in a state (even California!) the homo-promo side lost -- badly. Admittedly, we might lose in Massachusetts, though. The horror!

[jwalsh07]

People underestimate the resonance this issue has with the apolitical. Even in Massachusetts they collected enough signatures to bring it to referendum. The democrats in the state legislature violated the law last year and did not set up the referendum.

You wanna know why? Two reasons.

The homosexual lobby is very well connected and powerful in Mass number 1.

But more important is that the dims must have polling data telling them they'll lose even in Massachusetts.