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To: RJCogburn
A more likely scenario is a giant Canada. French and Spanish colonies were doomed by the Napoleonic Wars.

The Brits, not having the type of domestic political system that really works well with overseas tyranny, would probably have set up something very like a dominion within a few decades, as they did when the conquered the Boers. Frankly, the British "oppression" that America rebelled against was nothing of the kind on any sort of world scale. Our own government is far more oppressive in many ways than King George was.

The soil would still be here and being farmed. North American would still be an industrial and economic powerhouse if there had been no Revolution, or if it had been lost.

Probably by today the North American entity would dominate a vastly more powerful Commonwealth.

The British Empire of the 19th century would have been even more overwhelmingly powerful than it was. This overwhelming power would make the German challenges of the two world wars a lot less likely. No world wars, no Communists in power anywhere in the world. No Nazis, no Holocaust. No states, no War Between the States. Democracy and freedom would still have developed during the 19th century, although it might have taken considerably longer. Considering the calamities associated with the French Revolution, that might not be an entirely bad thing.

I don't think the world of a failed Revolution sounds so terrible. In some ways the history of the last 200 years might have been a lot less turbulent.

But I'm perfectly it turned out as it did.
4 posted on 06/29/2003 5:47:44 PM PDT by Restorer
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To: Restorer
A more likely scenario is a giant Canada. French and Spanish colonies were doomed by the Napoleonic Wars.

I'm somewhat uncertain about the probability of Napoleon and his empire without an American Revolution. As I explain in #13, without the bankruptcy deriving from French support of the American Revolution, the French Revolution could have happened much later, if at all.

Lacking that, would Nappy have been more than a great general? I see him more as the last of the great mercenary generals in Italy and perhaps India. As a Corsican and without the upset of the French Revolution, his path in France's military would likely have been limited!

14 posted on 06/29/2003 7:12:36 PM PDT by SES1066
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To: Restorer
Slightly different, in that the American Rebellion was averted, but Harry Turltledove's The Two Georges: a novel of altenate America.

Review

And honestly, wouldn't the Royal American Mounted Police be better than the FBI?

18 posted on 06/29/2003 7:54:02 PM PDT by Oztrich Boy ("To alcohol! The cause of- and solution to- all of life's problems" Homer)
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