To: .45MAN; AKA Elena; al_c; american colleen; Angelus Errare; Antoninus; aposiopetic; Aquinasfan; ...
I do NOT at this time advocate leaving the GOP for a third party.
But I fear the day is fast approaching when social conservatives and/or Christian conservatives will have no choice,
2 posted on
06/29/2003 11:28:54 AM PDT by
Polycarp
(To all hiding out in theReligionForumGhetto-It's time to fight the CultureOfDeath on the NewsForum)
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To: Polycarp
I don't think leaving right now is the answer as it will empower the Dems.
But it's a good article.
The SCOTUS is a very big disappointment to me.
To: Polycarp
I do NOT at this time advocate leaving the GOP for a third party.
Me neither. Not until we've had an honest go at ridding the party of the Homo-promo element. It's a heck of a lot easier and will take us less time to use a tool that's already there than to try to build a new one that, in the short run at least, would only elect pro-homo democrats.
In short, more Santorums, less Specters.
Speaking of which, does anyone know where Arlen MacSpecter's opponent falls on the "gay marriage" issue? You can bet Arlen's in favor (even if not publicly) thanks to Scottish law.
6 posted on
06/29/2003 11:41:15 AM PDT by
Antoninus
(In hoc signo, vinces †)
To: Polycarp
Third parties are pointless, useless, and self defeating. A conservative 3rd party only serves to get the Rats elected, likewise a liberal 3rd party (Nader), only serves to get the GOP in power.
Sure things are bad. But if you want them to go from bad to worse, go form your third party.
11 posted on
06/29/2003 11:45:46 AM PDT by
squidly
To: Polycarp
So now you are proposing that Presidents ask prospective judges nominated to the Supreme Court how they would intend to rule on sodomy laws? Get real...
20 posted on
06/29/2003 11:55:43 AM PDT by
marajade
To: Polycarp
I left the GOP (Gay Old Party???) awhile ago.
To: Polycarp
Blame the GOP???
Looking for all the "usual suspects" again?
Cripes, blame the society. Politicians go where the people are. Otherwise, they are just ex-politicians.
If you don't like what the politicians are doing (or not doing), look back at the people whose votes put them in office.
This court decision had to with societal forces (such as entropy) well beyond the power of political figures to control.
Why would you expect the government, seated through democratic elections, to do anything else but represent the beliefs, values and desires of those that put them in office.
Your beef is truly with the society that America has become, aiming at the politicians is closing the barn door after the horses have gone, spitting into the wind, and many other cliches (!)
That morality has been driven from the public square and replaced with the relativism that comes from the absolute power of individual choice -- and in the collective, from the tyranny of opinion that rules the majority -- is not because of the politicians. They are merely the whores to the tyranny of opinion. And if society has fallen this far, the politicians will not save it.
To: Polycarp
"I do NOT at this time advocate leaving the GOP for a third party." I didn't want to bail, either, but the sad part is that if you don't, nothing will ever change.
To: Polycarp
I do NOT at this time advocate leaving the GOP for a third party.Imperialism put it over the top for me.
I'm gone.
To: Polycarp
But I fear the day is fast approaching when social conservatives and/or Christian conservatives will have no choice, You're angry over this ruling, still. You know very well, unlike the goofball who wrote this article, that the "GOP" is not to blame for this decision. You just need a punching bag.
What's next? Start sending nasty e-mails to Charles Rosenthal, the Houston DA who brought the Lawrence case?
39 posted on
06/29/2003 12:18:02 PM PDT by
sinkspur
To: Polycarp
"That day" has arrived.
93 posted on
06/29/2003 2:03:35 PM PDT by
MrLee
To: Polycarp
The consistent problem with third party movements is that they are always gunning for the presidency when their efforts would be much better directed at gaining a voting block in the legislative branch at both the state and federal levels. If 50 percent of the sitting Repubs in the house were actually members of the Constitutional party (for example), the ruling elite of the Republicans would have to deal seriously with conservatives instead of emitting an endless stream of lip-service, empty promises, and lies.
Until such an alternative party really starts to get some traction, conservatives have little choice but to battle as hard as they can during the primary season. It's really not such a great idea to switch parties at primary time just so one can have the fun of boosting Al Sharpton's numbers. RINO hunting is a much better way to spend the primary season. For this voter and his family, primary season is RINO season.
To: Polycarp
But I fear the day is fast approaching when social conservatives
and/or Christian conservatives will have no choice,
When you're ready, just take the Libertarian Party platform,
change every 'shall' to 'shall not' and every 'is' to
'is not' and your new party should be ready to go.
120 posted on
06/29/2003 2:59:39 PM PDT by
gcruse
(There is no such thing as society: there are individual men and women[.] --Margaret Thatcher)
To: Polycarp
128 posted on
06/29/2003 3:17:57 PM PDT by
Coleus
(God is Pro Life and Straight and gave an innate predisposition for self-preservation and protection)
To: Polycarp
I do NOT at this time advocate leaving the GOP for a third party. But I fear the day is fast approaching when social conservatives and/or Christian conservatives will have no choice,I advocate leaving the GOP. The day has come and gone. If Christian conservatives wish for the Republican Party to hold to it's principles, then Christian conservatives should practice what they preach and live by the principles that they think are most important. It's high time we shook the dust from our sandals and moved on.
To: Polycarp
But I fear the day is fast approaching when social conservatives and/or Christian conservatives will have no choice. Thank you for that. It's not just Christians who are socially conservative.
I wish Scalia would get it right, too. It's not the end of Christian civilization; it's the end of Western civilization. Why does everyone think that there is only ONE religion in this land? It's very exclusionary.
There ARE conservatives who are not Christian.
147 posted on
06/29/2003 4:13:04 PM PDT by
my_pointy_head_is_sharp
(The Supreme Court busy at work, legalizing sodomy, virtual child porn & abortion - while you play.)
To: Polycarp
But I fear the day is fast approaching when social conservatives and/or Christian conservatives will have no choice,Maybe some true conservatives will start running for office and give us the chance to vote for them? Not that there aren't some true conservatives, just not many.
To: Polycarp
But I fear the day is fast approaching when social conservatives and/or Christian conservatives will have no choice, Actually, now would be a good time.
With you gone we could capture the Senate and House and Presidency by 2/3rds margins, and ram a Capitalist agenda through the Legislature without fear of voter backlash.
To: Polycarp
BLAME THE GOP FOR PRO-SODOMY COURT DECISIONHuh? Almost all decisions made by this big government, two party cartel in DC is driving this country into a ditch, both financially and morally.
The differences between the two beltway parties are really inconsequential..They have defaced America.
245 posted on
06/29/2003 8:42:58 PM PDT by
Joe Hadenuf
(RECALL DAVIS, position his smoking chair over a trapdoor, a memo for the next governor.)
To: Polycarp
I'm already gone, I have the curse or blessing of being far sighted. Reward the Republicans with a victory in 2004 for moving far, far, far, left and I can assure you conservatism is dead, our national sovereignty is dead, our constitution is dead. I'm not going there.
I'll write in Tancredo, a pro-controlled borders, evict the illegals politician that represents my family and my countries best interests.
To: Polycarp
I do NOT at this time advocate leaving the GOP for a third party.
What will it take? How much more before it's too late?
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