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9/11 Repeat Would be Fault of Bush, Congress, GOP Lawmaker Charges (Says Tom Tancredo)
CNSNews.com ^ | June 27, 2003 | Steve Brown

Posted on 06/28/2003 3:51:14 PM PDT by TLBSHOW

9/11 Repeat Would be Fault of Bush, Congress, GOP Lawmaker Charges

By Steve Brown

CNSNews.com Staff Writer

June 27, 2003

(CNSNews.com) - If another terrorist attack is conducted on U.S. soil by illegal aliens, the fault will lie with Congress and the president, one lawmaker asserted Thursday.

"If we have another event, and it's perpetrated by someone coming into this country illegally, and we've done no more to protect our borders and actually enforce our immigration policy...then the blood of the people that are killed will be on our hands and the president's," Rep. Tom Tancredo (R-Colo.) told CNSNews.com.

Tancredo said he has made the same statement to White House officials. Their response? "They told me never to darken the doorstep of the White House again," Tancredo revealed. "They went ballistic on me.

"They asked: 'How dare you say a thing like that?' I said: 'You tell me who people should blame - the Elks Club? Who's responsible?'" Tancredo recalled asking White House officials.

Tancredo spoke with CNSNews.com on the eve of Thursday's hearing conducted by the House Judiciary Subcommittee on Immigration, Border Security and Claims. The hearing focused on the "matricula consular" identification cards issued by the government of Mexico to illegal aliens in the U.S.

Last month, a Treasury Department rule allowing banks to accept the cards took effect, prompting more than 70 banks, including the Bank of America, to begin allowing the illegals to open accounts and conduct financial transactions.

"At a time when the federal government is taking monumental steps to track the entry and exit of foreigners, to find deportable aliens who have fled authorities and regain some sense of control of our borders, the [Treasury Department] has caved in to the banking lobby and thrown public safety out the window," Dan Stein, executive director of the Federation for American Immigration Reform, said in a release.

In press reports, Edgardo Flores Riva, the Mexican general consul, recounted how a Mexican national living in Washington, D.C., had stored $10,000 - all of his savings - in his bedroom. According to Flores Riva, a house fire destroyed all of the money.

"It sounds very basic, but if you cannot prove your identity, there are many important things you simply cannot do," Flores Riva told the Washington Times.

The cards have already been accepted as legitimate identification by more than 800 police departments in 13 states. More than 400 local governments also now accept the cards as proper identification for a variety of functions. Montgomery County, Md., began accepting the cards in May.

"The county is in this position because these people are residents, and a local government must deal with them, as they have an effect on our community," Elizabeth Davidson, director for the Montgomery County Department of Housing and Community Affairs, testified Thursday. "We do not have a role in immigration, but we do have a role in public safety, public health, education and other basic local services."

But critics argue that the cards provide de facto amnesty and encourage immigrants to continue breaking immigration law. More importantly, they argue, the cards violate the USA PATRIOT Act and pose a serious national security threat.

Tancredo described an instance where an individual in his home state was arrested with seven of the cards, each bearing a different name. Colorado subsequently became the first state to enact legislation banning their acceptance. Tancredo recently introduced federal legislation, H.R. 502, to ban acceptance of the cards nationwide.

Stewart Verdery, an assistant secretary with the Border and Transportation Security Directorate of the Department of Homeland Security, said an inter-agency process led by the Homeland Security Council was developing a comprehensive government policy on foreign consular identification cards.

"The inter-agency group is also specifically examining counterfeit and fraud concerns with the Mexican consular identification cards," Verdery said. "However, given the increase in the volume of requests for these cards in the past year and in light of the heightened security concerns in the post-9/11 environment, we are concerned about the acceptance of these cards."

Yet Roberta Jacobsen, acting deputy assistant secretary of state for the Bureau of Western Hemisphere Affairs, expressed concern that limiting acceptance of the cards might prompt the same treatment of U.S. citizens abroad.

"Should a foreign country decide to limit acceptance of such documentation or other traditional documentation, such as state-issued identifications or driver's licenses, the actions of American citizens abroad could be seriously restricted," Jacobsen said Thursday.

Steve McCraw, an official with the FBI Office of Intelligence, said both the FBI and the Justice Department have concluded that the cards are not reliable forms of identification "due to the non-existence of any means of verifying the true identity of the cardholder." He described how "at least one individual of Middle Eastern descent" had been arrested recently in possession of a Mexican ID card.

"The ability of foreign nationals to use the matricula consular to create a well-documented but fictitious identity in the United States provides an opportunity for terrorists to move freely without triggering name-based watch lists that are disseminated to local police officers. It allows them to board planes without revealing their true identity. All of these threats are in addition to the transfer of terrorist funds," McCraw said.

Mark Krikorian, executive director at the Center for Immigration Studies, said the testimony from the various federal agencies underscores a rift within the administration over the cards and immigration policy in general.

"There seems to be a tug-of-war within the administration, with the Justice Department and Homeland Security generally being in favor of muscular immigration enforcement, whereas...the Treasury Department and State Department are in favor of the status quo - an immigration policy that looks tough to satisfy public concerns but is never implemented," Krikorian told CNSNews.com.

He explained that the failure to reach an immigration policy consensus "leaves the administration in a position where it cannot do controversial or difficult things."

Tancredo detailed the big problems confronting immigration policy and enforcement reform.

"One: Democrats see massive immigration into this country - both legal and illegal - as a source of potential supporters. Two: Republicans see that same phenomenon as a source of cheap labor, and of course, the president, who wants to make a wedge issue out of it in the next election," Tancredo explained. "Those three forces combined make it damn near impossible to do anything about immigration reform."

Tancredo predicted that neither his bill nor any meaningful immigration reform would be passed anytime soon. "If you think that a third-term congressman can do much about that, explain to me how, and I'll be happy to try."


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 911; bush; congress; deport; gop; lawmaker; tomtancredo
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To: new cruelty
And apparently he ain't part of the freaking solution.

Well of course not, since he is just about the only politico in DC that speaks out against this epic, invasion of millions of criminal, and this open border national security nightmare. Yes, Tancredo is just slightly different than the rest of the useless politicos in DC, that stand winking and nodding at ths titanic attack on our sovereignty......

61 posted on 06/29/2003 4:43:51 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (RECALL DAVIS, position his smoking chair over a trapdoor, a memo for the next governor.)
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To: dagnabbit
Seriously, what's so urgent about bringing in 50-80,000 additional Pakistanis, Egyptians, etc every year. Why are we doing it?

It makes the eventual destruction of America and absorption into a regional government much easier.

62 posted on 06/29/2003 4:43:54 PM PDT by Mulder (Live Free or die)
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To: CyberAnt
Mainly because I think Bush equates public dissing of the admin as disloyalty.

Disloyalty to whom? These congressmen take an oath to the US Constitution, not to a man or an office. And so does the President.

If people go to him privately about an issue, and have a PLAN to solve it - Bush is more likely to listen.

How do you know that? You sound like you know Bush personally. Is this the case, or more fantasizing about what a "great man" he is?

63 posted on 06/29/2003 4:46:16 PM PDT by Mulder (Live Free or die)
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To: Joe Hadenuf
I agree there is a serious problem. However, the article makes the man sound like a juvenille defeatist. As I said, I have not read too much about the man, so I am not giving him his due, but I will. For now, he does not appear to be the last best hope for securing our borders.
64 posted on 06/29/2003 4:49:10 PM PDT by new cruelty
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65 posted on 06/29/2003 4:50:31 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: new cruelty
correction: juvenile, not juvenille
66 posted on 06/29/2003 4:50:31 PM PDT by new cruelty
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To: CyberAnt
If people go to him privately about an issue, and have a PLAN to solve it - Bush is more likely to listen.

Oh yes, we need someone to whisper in Mr. Bush's ear, in a private setting, and quietly beg him to save the country from this onslaught of millions of illegals, and the glaring potential threat of terrorist, that could enter our country, at will, routinely as million of others do..

As if the solutions haven't been discussed by millions of American's that are paying the high price of this attack on our borders

But thanks for the laugh, Ant.

67 posted on 06/29/2003 4:57:23 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (RECALL DAVIS, position his smoking chair over a trapdoor, a memo for the next governor.)
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To: Joe Hadenuf
Excuse me ... but doesn't the President have scheduled meetings with selected congresspeople to discuss issues ...?? Wouldn't that be an excellent time to bring up such an issue - and a prime time to find out what the President's thoughts and timing are on the issue ...??

And ... wouldn't that be better timing than getting on all the networks and shooting off your mouth - "the next 9/11 is going to be Bush's fault" kind of stuff ... and all the while not mentioning you have no idea how to fix it ...??

I wasn't talking about whispering in the President's ear - as he passes in the hallway ... for heaven's sake!
68 posted on 06/29/2003 7:59:09 PM PDT by CyberAnt ( America - You Are The Greatest!!)
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To: Mulder
See my #68!
69 posted on 06/29/2003 8:01:34 PM PDT by CyberAnt ( America - You Are The Greatest!!)
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To: CyberAnt
Excuse me ... but doesn't the President have scheduled meetings with selected congresspeople to discuss issues ...?? Wouldn't that be an excellent time to bring up such an issue - and a prime time to find out what the President's thoughts and timing are on the issue ...??

Yes, lets go through all the proper protocol. We must pick the right time to discuss this so we don't hurt anyone's feeling in the White House.

And just because the entire nation has been over run with illegal aliens, and gawd knows who else, for the last 20 years, we really don't know what the Presidents thoughts or timing are on this matter are, do we? We must be very sensitive and do all the proper things so we don't seem so barbaric and callous.

I mean the President is a busy man, and those borders in Outer Mongolia and Samaliland need his close attention. We have to put things in prospective here.

70 posted on 06/29/2003 8:13:29 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (RECALL DAVIS, position his smoking chair over a trapdoor, a memo for the next governor.)
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To: Joe Hadenuf
Well ... since you have all the answers ... please run for President so we can get this issue cleared up ...!!!!!
71 posted on 06/29/2003 8:16:05 PM PDT by CyberAnt ( America - You Are The Greatest!!)
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To: CyberAnt
Terrific response.........
72 posted on 06/29/2003 8:38:36 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (RECALL DAVIS, position his smoking chair over a trapdoor, a memo for the next governor.)
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To: Joe Hadenuf
"put things in prospective here"

Ahem ... it's "perspective" ... but I'll overlook it this time.
73 posted on 06/29/2003 9:36:24 PM PDT by CyberAnt ( America - You Are The Greatest!!)
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To: CyberAnt
Read the article. It is about the House of Representatives this week discussing the use of Mexican I.Ds. Tancredo opposes the use of these cards as they are a threat to Nation Security. As was stated in the article a Middle eastern man was arrested with one of these cards in his possession. With this fake ID, this middle estern man can board our airplanes. Remember 9/11.

Question to you. With the newly formed Homeland Security and the newly formed government run airport security, who allowed this to happen, the boarding of illegals? The Democrats or the Republicans.

74 posted on 06/29/2003 10:01:49 PM PDT by texastoo
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To: texastoo
Sorry ... you'll have to find another scapegoat - I believe it's a national problem not a political party problem. I believe there is enough blame to go around.
75 posted on 06/29/2003 10:22:23 PM PDT by CyberAnt ( America - You Are The Greatest!!)
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To: CyberAnt
Certainly, it is a national problem. The FBI has stated the cards are a threat to National security. My question is who is responsible for writing the policy that it is OK for illegals to board planes. Tom Ridge, a Republican is in charge of Homeland defense but I don't know who is in charge of airport security. Everyone should be concerned especially since 9/11.

Don't you think it strange that we have just now found out that illegals are boarding our planes. Americans must show positive ID and Mexicans, or anyone else, for that matter has only to show a Mexican consular ID. Where is our news media?
76 posted on 06/29/2003 11:05:33 PM PDT by texastoo
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To: Hyacinth Bucket
We all love Bush but we can't be blinded by our admiration for him. We have to keep him on his toes, criticize him when needed, and if we have to, hit him where it hurts (in the ballot box). He is definitely wrong on this issue.

BUMP
77 posted on 06/30/2003 8:24:18 AM PDT by TLBSHOW (The Gift is to See the Truth)
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To: new cruelty
I heard him talking about this issue. He claims that staffers and congressmen come to him all the time, and express the same concerns that he has about the issue of illegal immigration. The only thing is, they still will not put their names to a bill putting a stop to the problem, or support a bill attempting to address the issue. Seems they are afraid of the political ramifications. That is enough to dissuade and discourage any man. When you work hard to put together a consensus of opinion, then find that though others believe like you do, but will not act on it, what can anyone do but show impatience?
78 posted on 07/01/2003 2:52:43 PM PDT by jeremiah (Sunshine scares all of them, for they all are cockaroaches)
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To: CyberAnt
You mean how he threw the disloyal McCain out for pushing election reform, by using the press to pressure this administration into signing a bill that he swore he wouldn't?
79 posted on 07/01/2003 2:55:03 PM PDT by jeremiah (Sunshine scares all of them, for they all are cockaroaches)
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To: jeremiah
Hmmmm? I don't recall Bush ever swearing he would not sign CFR - in fact I remember the exact opposite.
80 posted on 07/01/2003 3:04:14 PM PDT by CyberAnt ( America - You Are The Greatest!!)
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