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9/11 Repeat Would be Fault of Bush, Congress, GOP Lawmaker Charges (Says Tom Tancredo)
CNSNews.com ^ | June 27, 2003 | Steve Brown

Posted on 06/28/2003 3:51:14 PM PDT by TLBSHOW

9/11 Repeat Would be Fault of Bush, Congress, GOP Lawmaker Charges

By Steve Brown

CNSNews.com Staff Writer

June 27, 2003

(CNSNews.com) - If another terrorist attack is conducted on U.S. soil by illegal aliens, the fault will lie with Congress and the president, one lawmaker asserted Thursday.

"If we have another event, and it's perpetrated by someone coming into this country illegally, and we've done no more to protect our borders and actually enforce our immigration policy...then the blood of the people that are killed will be on our hands and the president's," Rep. Tom Tancredo (R-Colo.) told CNSNews.com.

Tancredo said he has made the same statement to White House officials. Their response? "They told me never to darken the doorstep of the White House again," Tancredo revealed. "They went ballistic on me.

"They asked: 'How dare you say a thing like that?' I said: 'You tell me who people should blame - the Elks Club? Who's responsible?'" Tancredo recalled asking White House officials.

Tancredo spoke with CNSNews.com on the eve of Thursday's hearing conducted by the House Judiciary Subcommittee on Immigration, Border Security and Claims. The hearing focused on the "matricula consular" identification cards issued by the government of Mexico to illegal aliens in the U.S.

Last month, a Treasury Department rule allowing banks to accept the cards took effect, prompting more than 70 banks, including the Bank of America, to begin allowing the illegals to open accounts and conduct financial transactions.

"At a time when the federal government is taking monumental steps to track the entry and exit of foreigners, to find deportable aliens who have fled authorities and regain some sense of control of our borders, the [Treasury Department] has caved in to the banking lobby and thrown public safety out the window," Dan Stein, executive director of the Federation for American Immigration Reform, said in a release.

In press reports, Edgardo Flores Riva, the Mexican general consul, recounted how a Mexican national living in Washington, D.C., had stored $10,000 - all of his savings - in his bedroom. According to Flores Riva, a house fire destroyed all of the money.

"It sounds very basic, but if you cannot prove your identity, there are many important things you simply cannot do," Flores Riva told the Washington Times.

The cards have already been accepted as legitimate identification by more than 800 police departments in 13 states. More than 400 local governments also now accept the cards as proper identification for a variety of functions. Montgomery County, Md., began accepting the cards in May.

"The county is in this position because these people are residents, and a local government must deal with them, as they have an effect on our community," Elizabeth Davidson, director for the Montgomery County Department of Housing and Community Affairs, testified Thursday. "We do not have a role in immigration, but we do have a role in public safety, public health, education and other basic local services."

But critics argue that the cards provide de facto amnesty and encourage immigrants to continue breaking immigration law. More importantly, they argue, the cards violate the USA PATRIOT Act and pose a serious national security threat.

Tancredo described an instance where an individual in his home state was arrested with seven of the cards, each bearing a different name. Colorado subsequently became the first state to enact legislation banning their acceptance. Tancredo recently introduced federal legislation, H.R. 502, to ban acceptance of the cards nationwide.

Stewart Verdery, an assistant secretary with the Border and Transportation Security Directorate of the Department of Homeland Security, said an inter-agency process led by the Homeland Security Council was developing a comprehensive government policy on foreign consular identification cards.

"The inter-agency group is also specifically examining counterfeit and fraud concerns with the Mexican consular identification cards," Verdery said. "However, given the increase in the volume of requests for these cards in the past year and in light of the heightened security concerns in the post-9/11 environment, we are concerned about the acceptance of these cards."

Yet Roberta Jacobsen, acting deputy assistant secretary of state for the Bureau of Western Hemisphere Affairs, expressed concern that limiting acceptance of the cards might prompt the same treatment of U.S. citizens abroad.

"Should a foreign country decide to limit acceptance of such documentation or other traditional documentation, such as state-issued identifications or driver's licenses, the actions of American citizens abroad could be seriously restricted," Jacobsen said Thursday.

Steve McCraw, an official with the FBI Office of Intelligence, said both the FBI and the Justice Department have concluded that the cards are not reliable forms of identification "due to the non-existence of any means of verifying the true identity of the cardholder." He described how "at least one individual of Middle Eastern descent" had been arrested recently in possession of a Mexican ID card.

"The ability of foreign nationals to use the matricula consular to create a well-documented but fictitious identity in the United States provides an opportunity for terrorists to move freely without triggering name-based watch lists that are disseminated to local police officers. It allows them to board planes without revealing their true identity. All of these threats are in addition to the transfer of terrorist funds," McCraw said.

Mark Krikorian, executive director at the Center for Immigration Studies, said the testimony from the various federal agencies underscores a rift within the administration over the cards and immigration policy in general.

"There seems to be a tug-of-war within the administration, with the Justice Department and Homeland Security generally being in favor of muscular immigration enforcement, whereas...the Treasury Department and State Department are in favor of the status quo - an immigration policy that looks tough to satisfy public concerns but is never implemented," Krikorian told CNSNews.com.

He explained that the failure to reach an immigration policy consensus "leaves the administration in a position where it cannot do controversial or difficult things."

Tancredo detailed the big problems confronting immigration policy and enforcement reform.

"One: Democrats see massive immigration into this country - both legal and illegal - as a source of potential supporters. Two: Republicans see that same phenomenon as a source of cheap labor, and of course, the president, who wants to make a wedge issue out of it in the next election," Tancredo explained. "Those three forces combined make it damn near impossible to do anything about immigration reform."

Tancredo predicted that neither his bill nor any meaningful immigration reform would be passed anytime soon. "If you think that a third-term congressman can do much about that, explain to me how, and I'll be happy to try."


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Government; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: 911; bush; congress; deport; gop; lawmaker; tomtancredo
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To: america-rules
It would take over 1 Million troops and over $500 Billion Dollars.

Source?

41 posted on 06/28/2003 10:02:19 PM PDT by sarcasm (Tancredo 2004)
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To: america-rules
It would take over 1 Million troops and over $500 Billion Dollars.
And how much are we spending now on airport "security" which demands that I take off my shoes?
42 posted on 06/28/2003 11:00:48 PM PDT by lelio
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To: TLBSHOW
I respect MR. Tancredo and his refusal to back away from the truth. The American people (many of them atleast) are in complete denial about borders/language/culture (Thank you Savage) and it could be the nation's downfall. There is certainly enough blame to go around, and not only with elected officials.
43 posted on 06/28/2003 11:27:30 PM PDT by Libertina (FR - roaches check in, but they don't check out....)
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To: wingnuts'nbolts
The safety of our country is the most important issue today. We are in dire jeopardy from terrorists within and without.

The above statement is from your profile, so I'm confused. Do you leave your kitchen door unlocked so that anyone can enter and steal your property?
As to Dean or Hillary, I know these people to be enemies of this country and should they get into power at least we know what to expect.
44 posted on 06/29/2003 5:44:33 AM PDT by Crusader21stCentury
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To: CyberAnt
"While I agree that immigation is a total mess and endangers our security - what it's going to take is a NEW LEADER for the INS - someone like Rudy - someone who knows how to clean up messes - someone who will rule with an iron thumb - while he's smiling!"

I wonder if this congressman would resign his seat in the legislature if he was offered this spot at INS?
45 posted on 06/29/2003 6:38:58 AM PDT by Those_Crazy_Liberals (Ronaldus Magnus he's our man . . . If he can't do it, no one can.)
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To: TLBSHOW
Tancredo seems to have a strong understanding of the serious threat illegal immigration poses, and I am sure he is doing his best to get something done about it, but his attitude is getting in the way. He sounds like a beaten pup.

Tancredo predicted that neither his bill nor any meaningful immigration reform would be passed anytime soon. "If you think that a third-term congressman can do much about that, explain to me how, and I'll be happy to try."

46 posted on 06/29/2003 6:56:45 AM PDT by new cruelty
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To: CyberAnt
How should he go about it? I'm not trying to flame you, I'm curious about your ideas. While I can't agree than another attack can be blamed on Bush, I do agree that illegal immigration is a huge and dangerous problem. One that Bush seems to care nothing about.
47 posted on 06/29/2003 6:57:37 AM PDT by Ima Lurker
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To: Crusader21stCentury
You see the White House attitude on this matter towards Tom?

What was it?

Don't come here no more they told him.

Is Bush in la la land?
48 posted on 06/29/2003 7:28:01 AM PDT by TLBSHOW (The Gift is to See the Truth)
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To: Ima Lurker; CyberAnt
I just happened to be lurking and would like to interject my two cents:

The article and Tancredo's words quoted in the article suggest that Tancredo has not exercised due diligence on the matter. While he acknowledges the problem, cast blame (where appropriate), and argues for a solution (somewhat ineffectively), he chooses to fan the flames by talking out of school and resorting to 'he said / she said' tactics.

He might to better by backing up his claims with facts, numbers, or evidence supporting the matter, all of which seem obvious and to go through the trouble of siting each may seem pointless, however, doing so will make is case irrefutable and also serve as a guide (read road map) on how to arrive at a successful conclusion. As it stands, the article portrays Tancredo as someone with a can't-do attitude who lacks the credentials to take ownership of the situation and is incapable of providing a solution. The article paints his rhetoric with frustration, accusation, vicitmization, and defeat.

However, I too am guilty of not exercising due diligence in delivering this critique, as I have only read this one article regarding Tancredo and know very little about the congressman.
49 posted on 06/29/2003 7:33:04 AM PDT by new cruelty
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To: new cruelty
However, I too am guilty of not exercising due diligence in delivering this critique, as I have only read this one article regarding Tancredo and know very little about the congressman.

Pssst...Here's a free clue.....The congressman aint the freaking problem......

50 posted on 06/29/2003 9:52:31 AM PDT by Joe Hadenuf (RECALL DAVIS, position his smoking chair over a trapdoor, a memo for the next governor.)
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To: Ima Lurker
He needs facts and figures - and he needs to go to Bush directly and instruct on what the real situation is - and what he thinks should be or could be done to change it.

The other issue as I see it - Tancredo has gone public with his complaints. For whatever reason, this upset the admin. I just think there is another issue there we may not be aware of.
51 posted on 06/29/2003 1:09:38 PM PDT by CyberAnt ( America - You Are The Greatest!!)
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To: Those_Crazy_Liberals
He will never be offered the position at INS. Mainly because I think Bush equates public dissing of the admin as disloyalty. If people go to him privately about an issue, and have a PLAN to solve it - Bush is more likely to listen.
52 posted on 06/29/2003 1:12:02 PM PDT by CyberAnt ( America - You Are The Greatest!!)
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To: TLBSHOW
It is my guess that attacks are in the planning stages, as I type, for the 2004 election cycle for the exact purpose of seeing the Bush Administration removed from power.

Whether it will be sucessful or not, I have no guess (removal from power). A lot will depend on the rat candidate.

I'm not sure of the public's reaction though.

Will they rally around the President as they did in 2001 or will they blame him. Depends on the act I suppose.

53 posted on 06/29/2003 1:40:59 PM PDT by Brian S
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To: CyberAnt
"He will never be offered the position at INS. Mainly because I think Bush equates public dissing of the admin as disloyalty. If people go to him privately about an issue, and have a PLAN to solve it - Bush is more likely to listen."

When you're the king (Bush) I think that approach works best. Kind of immature to stand outside the tent and throw a tantrum. Thats the stuff that only NPR likes.
54 posted on 06/29/2003 2:06:22 PM PDT by Those_Crazy_Liberals (Ronaldus Magnus he's our man . . . If he can't do it, no one can.)
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To: Froggie
"Note to Congressman Tom Tancredo: Announce your candidacy for President Monday morning!! Run on this platform of sealing the border from illegal entry. This National Security issue CAN NOT be ignored."

Didn't GO PAT GO Buchanan try this about 11 years ago?
55 posted on 06/29/2003 2:10:28 PM PDT by Those_Crazy_Liberals (Ronaldus Magnus he's our man . . . If he can't do it, no one can.)
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To: lelio
So I can use my state driver's license overseas? I never knew that.

In some countries, you can. In other countries you can, but temporarily. In yet other countries, nyet.

56 posted on 06/29/2003 2:16:08 PM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Those_Crazy_Liberals
And ... it's partly why Tancredo gets noticed - the liberals love anybody who disses the repubs.
57 posted on 06/29/2003 3:00:19 PM PDT by CyberAnt ( America - You Are The Greatest!!)
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To: Joe Hadenuf
And apparently he ain't part of the freaking solution.
58 posted on 06/29/2003 4:35:34 PM PDT by new cruelty
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To: america-rules
It's impossible to completly seal the US border in the North and South. It would take over 1 Million troops and over $500 Billion Dollars.

If they instituted a shoot-on-sight policy of all invaders, that would reduce the number by 99%. Which is 99% better than it is today.

59 posted on 06/29/2003 4:41:50 PM PDT by Mulder (Live Free or die)
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To: Froggie
Note to Congressman Tom Tancredo: Announce your candidacy for President Monday morning!!

I'd like to see a Paul/Tancredo ticket.

60 posted on 06/29/2003 4:42:16 PM PDT by Mulder (Live Free or die)
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