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George F. Will:
Lap dancing may become next right
Union Leader ^
| 6/27/03
| George F. Will
Posted on 06/27/2003 3:17:48 AM PDT by kattracks
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To: eno_; BartMan1
Boo hoo.You make the mistake of thinking this is about 'privacy'. Please show me where the constitution guarantees privacy.
This is in fact about legitimatizing and mainstreaming destructive thinking and behavior, which will force out and marginalize civilized and productive behaviors. To you, the high road in this matter is to step back, put up your hands and claim moral superiority in doing nothing . To my view, that is an act of treason. You lack the vision to realize that the celebration you're enjoying is being hosted by liberals who can't wait to enslave you in their corrupt and morally vacant world.
The question of what kind of society we want to live in is drowned out by people such as these, who are getting not just status as a protected class, but entitlement to stomp the rights of those who disagree with them.
The question is not whether states are wise to criminalize this or that sex act outside of marriage. Rather, the question is: Once the court has said that some such acts are constitutional rights, by what principle are any of the myriad possible permutations of consensual adult sexual activities denied the same standing?
Once consent choice supplants marriage as the important interest served by cloaking sexual activities as constitutional rights, by what principle is any consensual adult sexual conduct not a protected right? Bigamy? Polygamy? Prostitution? Incest? Even if we assume animals can consent, or that their consent does not matter bestiality? By what has been called semantic infiltration, seemingly bland language stealthily permeates discourse with ideology. So it is with the now commonplace locution sexual preferences.
Will underscores the point. In your world, _eno, if I murder someone and cover it up, I'm not guilty because it was a private matter. Same with rape, incest, pedophilia...
No thanks.
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posted on
06/27/2003 5:22:05 AM PDT
by
IncPen
To: kittymyrib
Look for all the churches to be taxed soon. Very soon.
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posted on
06/27/2003 5:28:14 AM PDT
by
Beck_isright
(If Dennis Kucinich ran for President would anyone know it?)
To: IncPen
Jeebus, will you people let up on this "where does the constitution guarantee privacy?"
None of the Founders went around saying "the only rights you have are those specifically listed in the BoR" if they did they wouldnt have put the friggin 9th amendment in there! If privacy isn't a right, something AKIN to privacy is--and not just from the 9th but the 4th.
Please name for me rights that would fall under the 9th amendment that are not listed in 1-8. If you can name me ONE, you get a cookie. But if you do name some, please tell me why those are part of the unenumerated rights, but 'privacy','sexuality,' etc are not?
I don't understand people who claim to be for limited government power in their lives clamoring for the state to come barging into someone else's.
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posted on
06/27/2003 5:28:40 AM PDT
by
Skywalk
To: IncPen
If the Constitution guarantees privacy, why can't I give my son a gift without reporting it to the Federal Government?
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posted on
06/27/2003 5:31:43 AM PDT
by
DManA
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To: God_Hates_Liberals
It has been clearly demonstrated that there are no limits to the restrictions that this clown shoes government can put on a business
That's really, really, good.
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posted on
06/27/2003 5:32:51 AM PDT
by
motzman
To: Skywalk
Privacy in this country is NOT a right. It is granted by the state on a case by case basis, only to groups that raise enough hell.
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posted on
06/27/2003 5:34:12 AM PDT
by
DManA
To: God_Hates_Liberals
What happens if the lap dancer is invited to one's home? I.e., a bachelor party
Why stop at lap dances? Prostitution must be legal now, as long as it takes place in one's home.
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To: God_Hates_Liberals
Nice try.
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posted on
06/27/2003 5:40:02 AM PDT
by
IncPen
Comment #31 Removed by Moderator
To: John Beresford Tipton
"George F. Will: Lap dancing may become next right"
Poor George (yet I generally don't have a problem w/ him) but if you have heard some of his kernels of wisdom, he blames Nietzsche for the negative turn of Western Civilization. There would have been no Nietzsche without others before him.
George is often in love with his own perceived eloquence.Krauthammer is still The Man.
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posted on
06/27/2003 5:42:02 AM PDT
by
Helms
To: AmishDude
If the lap dancer consents to have sex in the home, why should you or the government have any say?
To: DManA
So then we have no rights under the 9th amendment, even though we clearly do or it wouldn't have been included?
Please enlighten me further.
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posted on
06/27/2003 5:42:16 AM PDT
by
Skywalk
To: God_Hates_Liberals
Hey, you can't quote the 4th or any amendment that clearly leads to a right akin to "privacy!" That's not allowed here.
You must do a word search of the Constitution according to these geniuses. If the word you look for isn't there, it's not among your rights, dontchaknow?
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posted on
06/27/2003 5:44:01 AM PDT
by
Skywalk
To: God_Hates_Liberals
What is it about a commercial transaction that makes prostitution capable to be banned but "free" activity is not. The Constitution does not distinguish between commercial and non-commercial activity.
Comment #37 Removed by Moderator
To: eno_
That's an argument for the Texas law being a bad law, not an unconstitutional law.
To: Behind Liberal Lines
My wife, unabashed liberal that she is, thinks George Will is the sexiest guy on earth. I don't get it either. But it probably explains why she married me.
For mine its 900 year old Sean Connery. An old man in a kilt who talks funny.
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posted on
06/27/2003 5:50:06 AM PDT
by
Arkinsaw
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