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Coulter: FDR Ignored Warnings That Hiss Was a Traitor
NewsMax.com ^
| 6/26/03
| With Carl Limbacher and NewsMax.com Staff
Posted on 06/26/2003 1:45:41 PM PDT by Jean S
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To: maestro
Huh?
To: ex-snook
Does she shed any light on who led the McCarthy lynch mob that included Eisenhower? That is so simple even a real snook as opposed to an ex-snook should be able to figure it out. Your reference to Ike is quite revealing. You fain ignorance while revealing detailed knowledge of the situation.
Ed Murrow of CBS was the first media hero. He lead the charge against McCarthy. He was the first to oppose McCarthy and lead the pack journalism that did Joe in. It was what made EDWARD R. MURROW the hero of the left. The media had been pretty right wing before. But when Ed came out of the closet, he did so just in time to attack Joe and win. Ed Murrow with the support of CBS owner Paley did it all with his little mic and big camera. Murrow loved the left and Paley wanted to make the point that print media no longer controlled public opinion. Paley wanted the political world to know that TV had public opinion in its back pocket. Prior to this time Politicians wold make TV and Radio reporters wait while they sucked up to the print media. After McCArthy fell, the print reporters had to ride in the back of the bus... TV was the new king of influence.
Eisenhower stayed neutral in typical Eisenhower manner until he could no longer stay neutral. Ike had made a McCarthy cohort his vice President. But when public opinion went against McCarthy so did Ike.
An ex-snook as opposed to a current snook should know that this is a Nation of the people, by the people, and for the people. When public opinion turned on McCarthy, Ike first ignored the situation. When that could not be continued, Ike came out against McCarthy in a Boston speech.
In our nation elected officials are PUBLIC SERVANTS. They are not elected Rulers.
Servants who know what is good for them always take the views held by their masters. Ike was no exception!
To: JeanS
This is my personal favorite...
To: JeanS
It is interesting that the now declassified "
Project Venona" that Ann cites in several footnotes was kept secret from both FDR and from Truman - the implication being that neither could be trusted with the knowledge of the existance of the project.
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posted on
06/26/2003 2:36:03 PM PDT
by
dark_lord
(The Statue of Liberty now holds a baseball bat and she's yelling 'You want a piece of me?')
To: JeanS
FDR pretty much asked Uncle Joe to politically date rape him. Read all about it in
How Uncle Joe Bugged FDR. He ignored any and all evidence that the Soviets might not be the knight in shining armor atop the white horse he, in his pubescent school-girl mentality, wished them to be.
To: George Smiley
Again I recommend Chambers' autobiography, Witness. I second that.
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posted on
06/26/2003 2:47:55 PM PDT
by
VRW Conspirator
(When the tree of Liberty is washed, may it be only with the blood of tyrants!)
To: Caesar Soze
"FDR pretty much asked Uncle Joe to politically date rape him. Read all about it in How Uncle Joe Bugged FDR. He ignored any and all evidence that the Soviets might not be the knight in shining armor atop the white horse he, in his pubescent school-girl mentality, wished them to be."I do not think that FDR was naive, I suppose Stalin had something on him and FDR had no other choice but play naive.
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06/26/2003 3:04:20 PM PDT
by
alex
To: JeanS
I haven't seen the book yet, but FDR was holding some weak cards at Yalta: the Red army was already occupying much of Eastern Europe by February 1945, and FDR was eager to get Stalin to join in the war against Japan. FDR made some efforts to gain free elections and better borders for Poland because of the importance of the Polish vote in critical states. In retrospect many of the agreements made at Yalta were disastrous (e.g., the division of Korea), but could have seemed at the time like the best that could be obtained...and some of the negative consequences for Eastern Europe flowed from decisions made before Yalta.
To: montag813
She's aged well and grown more attractive
To: dark_lord
"It is interesting that the now declassified "Project Venona" that Ann cites in several footnotes was kept secret from both FDR and from Truman - the implication being that neither could be trusted with the knowledge of the existance of the project."
The Venona papers were released in 1996. A question here, why would Clinton release papers that indite all he admires. This is the type of puzzel, that when I was in the biz, we would closely review. Was this to deflect a bigger possible disclosure. Not paranoid here but I was trained to look at inconsisity. Our thought was always give up the small or dead fish to give the big ones time to burrow in. What will be the next disclosure.
Just asking
best regards
the dozer
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posted on
06/26/2003 4:09:14 PM PDT
by
dozer7
To: JeanS
bump
To: JeanS
"Berle went to Dean Acheson, then Roosevelt's undersecretary of the Treasury. He refused to believe Berle..."There is a reason Joe McCarthy called Acheson a "striped pants *sshole."
To: Bonaparte
I think this book will bring about a lot of discussion that needs to be brought back to the table.
For a fun or unusual read, here is what used to be the old "The View" message board.
It is no longer with ABC, but still has some opinionated people. The stupid ones would be the liberals of course.
http://www.network54.com/Forum/170322
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posted on
06/26/2003 4:45:45 PM PDT
by
A CA Guy
(God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
To: Bonaparte
If your head starts to explode and you end up posting, please don't refer to this link on FR.
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posted on
06/26/2003 4:48:56 PM PDT
by
A CA Guy
(God Bless America, God bless and keep safe our fighting men and women.)
To: Common Tator
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posted on
06/26/2003 4:50:40 PM PDT
by
DPB101
To: JeanS
"...those who sought to expose communist espionage who were attacked and slandered, while the spies and their supporters were rewarded and praised by the leftist establishment."
Nothing new here!
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posted on
06/26/2003 5:03:20 PM PDT
by
SwinneySwitch
(Freedom is not Free - Support the Troops!)
To: jimt
Eleanor Roosevelt attended meetings of the "Young Communists League"She also spoke at the Highlander Folk School--a communist training camp. She supported the Communists in Spain, attended a convention of the National Lawyers Guild (a communist front), accepted an award from Local #5 of American Federation of Teachers (another Communist front which was eventually kicked out of the union), supported a concert by Paul Robeson (an avowed communist) and was a long time, very vocal admirer of the American Youth Congress
Of possible spies in her husband's adminstration, she said:
"Smearing good people like Alger Hiss and Lauchlin Currie is, I think, unforgivable...Anyone knowing either Mr. Currie or Mr. Hiss, who are two people whom I happen to know fairly well, would not need any denial on their part to know they are not Communists. Their records prove it."
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posted on
06/26/2003 5:06:01 PM PDT
by
DPB101
To: JeanS
bttt
To: Common Tator
"Servants who know what is good for them always take the views held by their masters. Ike was no exception! "Appreciate the recap of the media players. But I don't think they are the 'masters' just the voices. I was surprised at Eisenhower joining the Washington left-wing 'masters' who were protecting Communists.
I guess getting Eisenhower shows the depth and power of their influence. But based on the media reaction to her book, the 'masters' are still at it.
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posted on
06/26/2003 5:33:46 PM PDT
by
ex-snook
(So just who recovers in a 'jobless' recovery?)
To: Common Tator
Truman didn't go to Yalta...he remained in the U.S. Having both the President and the Vice President absent for several weeks in the middle of a war wouldn't have been very prudent...and one torpedo could have made Sam Rayburn President. Or would it have been the Secretary of State (Stettinius) in this era?
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