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Ruling may impact sex laws, sets stage for marriage fight
Washington Blade ^ | June 26, 2003 | CHRIS CRAIN

Posted on 06/26/2003 12:44:09 PM PDT by Dog Gone

In sweeping language, the Supreme Court struck down the Texas sodomy law, and with it similar laws in 12 other states, as violating gay Americans' right to due process, but the debate among the justices was far broader, and in many ways set the stage for the court to address the issue of marriage, the next looming battle in the "culture wars," in Justice Antonin Scalia's parlance.

Even on the issue of sodomy laws, the justices were expansive in their reasoning. The Supreme Court typically decides only the question before it, but the majority opinion in Lawrence vs. Texas went further than it needed to, tackling not just laws like the one in Texas and three other states that criminalize only homosexual sodomy. Instead, the court reached out to effectively rule unconstitutional the sodomy laws of nine other states — including Virginia — that apply to homosexual and heterosexual couplings.

The case was decided 6-3, but only a bare majority of five were willing to take the extra step of effectively striking down all 13 sodomy statutes as contrary to the Constitution's Due Process Clause. In doing so, these five justices overruled the court's 1986 decision in Bowers vs. Hardwick, which upheld Georgia's general sodomy law.

The sixth justice in the majority, Sandra Day O'Connor, voted with the majority in Bowers and was unwilling to revisit her thinking in that case. Instead, she agreed that the Texas law was unconstitutional, but limited her analysis to the fact that the law applies only to homosexual and not heterosexual conduct. That distinction violates the Equal Protection Clause, which like the Due Process Clause is contained in the 14th Amendment to the Constitution.

The other five justices in the majority acknowledged that the equal protection challenge "is a tenable argument," but they nonetheless went on to overrule Bowers and face the broader question of the government's ability to legislate sexual morality.

Justice Anthony Kennedy wrote for the majority, "Were we to hold the statute invalid under the Equal Protection Clause" as O'Connor suggested, "some might question whether a prohibition would be valid if drawn differently, say, to prohibit the conduct both between same-sex and different-sex participants."

The five-justice majority answered that question loud and clear: "Liberty presumes an autonomy of self that includes freedom of thought, belief, expression, and certain intimate conduct." Private and consensual sexual conduct between adults — even homosexual adults — qualifies as protected "intimate conduct," the court concluded, and the government cannot regulate it.

The impact of that ruling could be far-reaching. In his dissent, Justice Scalia cited a number of laws that may collapse in its wake: those prohibiting the sale of sex toys, adultery, fornication (sex outside marriage), adult incest, public indecency, bigamy, masturbation, bestiality, obscenity and same-sex marriage.

But the majority opinion was not simply a treatise on how individual freedom to engage in sexual acts must not be infringed upon by the government. Although the five-justice majority was not deciding the case based on the fact that the Texas sodomy law was limited to homosexual conduct, Justice Kennedy's opinion dealt directly with how application of the law was used to discriminate against gay men and lesbians. (Though it is noteworthy that "homosexual" remains the preferred descriptor for gays at the highest court in the land.)

"When homosexual conduct is made criminal by the law of the state," wrote Justice Kennedy, "that declaration in and of itself is an invitation to subject homosexual persons to discrimination both in the public and in the private spheres."

The Lawrence case, according to Justice Kennedy, "involves two adults who, with full and mutual consent from each other, engaged in sexual practices common to a homosexual lifestyle. The [two men] are entitled to respect for their private lives. The state cannot demean their existence or control their destiny by making their private sexual conduct a crime."


Four votes against marriage?

Behind the fight over sodomy laws and whether to overrule Bowers vs. Hardwick, however, all nine justices were aware that this week's opinions set the stage for a far more cataclysmic clash: the constitutionality of limiting marriage to opposite-sex couples.

The five-justice majority took pains to make clear that the Lawrence case "does not involve whether the government must give formal recognition to any relationship that homosexual persons seek to enter."
But there is plenty about the reasoning adopted by those five justices that will bear upon the question of same-sex marriage. In its discussion of the areas of personal liberty upon which the government should not intrude, Justice Kennedy noted that marriage is among those individual choices:

"Our laws and tradition afford constitutional protection to personal decisions relating to marriage, procreation, contraception, family relationships, child rearing and education," he wrote, concluding later in that same paragraph: "Persons in a homosexual relationship may seek autonomy for these purposes, just as heterosexual persons do."
That conclusion represented a marked evolution from the now-discredited view of gay relationships in Bowers vs. Hardwick, in which Justice Byron White, writing for a different five-justice majority, argued it was "facetious at best" to suggest that homosexual sex bore any connection to family life.

Justice O'Connor, in her opinion concurring only in the result reached by Justice Kennedy — and not his underlying reasoning — made expressly clear that marriage will present different issues for the court.

She was prepared to strike down the Texas law for discriminating against gays, she wrote, but that "does not mean that other laws distinguishing between heterosexuals and homosexuals would similarly fail."

"Texas cannot assert any legitimate state interest here, such as national security or preserving the traditional institution of marriage," O'Connor wrote. "Unlike the moral disapproval of same-sex relations — the asserted state interest in this case — other reasons exist to promote the institution of marriage beyond mere moral disapproval of an excluded group."

O'Connor does not offer examples of those different, legitimate interests in limiting marriage to opposite-sex couples.

In dissent, Justice Scalia argues that, Justice O'Connor's assurances to the contrary, the decision in Lawrence "leaves on pretty shaky grounds state laws limiting marriage to opposite sex couples." He wrote that O'Connor may see some basis other than legislating moral disapproval of gays to "preserving the traditional institution of marriage," but that "is just a kinder way of describing the state's moral disapproval of same-sex couples."

Justice Scalia, dissenting along with Chief Justice William Rehnquist and Justice Clarence Thomas, argues that Bowers was correctly decided and that individual states have a legitimate interest in legislating sexual morality. One advantage of that approach, he argues, is that the elected branches of government "need not carry things to their logical conclusion.

"The people may feel that their disapprobation of homosexual conduct is strong enough to disallow homosexual marriage, but not strong enough to criminalize private homosexual acts — and legislate accordingly."

But the Supreme Court must follow the logic of its previous rulings, Scalia wrote, and that means finding some justification other than "morality" for limiting marriage to heterosexual couples. He rejects the primary justifications mentioned in those cases that have addressed the subject:

"Surely not the encouragement of procreation, since the sterile and the elderly are allowed to marry," he pointed out. "This case 'does not involve' the issue of homosexual marriage only if one entertains the belief that principle and logic have nothing to do with the decisions of this court."

The dissenters are clearly predicting that the decision this week in Lawrence will compel the court to recognize same-sex marriage. Or, at the very least, they are scaring the general public into reaching that conclusion, perhaps so that they may ward off such a result with an amendment to the Constitution that takes the question of gay marriage out of the court's hands.

For those counting votes on the court, that leaves three justices — Scalia, Thomas and Rehnquist — slamming shut the door on any hope of forcing states to open up marriage to gay couples. And Justice O'Connor appeared to be signaling her vote would be the same.

After Lawrence, five justices have essentially put off the question of gay marriage until another day, but their reasoning certainly leaves open the door. That will undoubtedly increase the scrutiny on the choices President Bush makes to fill any court vacancies.

Gay activists will take solace, however, that the two justices most often rumored to be stepping down — Rehnquist and O'Connor — appear already lost causes on the issue of marriage.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: homosexualagenda; lawrencevtexas; samesexmarriage
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To: babyface00
"Liberty presumes an autonomy of self that includes freedom of thought, belief, expression, and certain intimate conduct." Private and consensual sexual conduct between adults — even homosexual adults — qualifies as protected "intimate conduct," the court concluded, and the government cannot regulate it.

I say, lets use this to our advantage. Surely its not a great leap to say that the government should get completely out of our private interactions altogther.
21 posted on 06/26/2003 1:38:45 PM PDT by babyface00
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To: Dog Gone
It will be interesting to see how far the 9th Circuit takes this decision and runs with it.
22 posted on 06/26/2003 1:39:45 PM PDT by You Dirty Rats
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To: randita
Does this ruling mean that state laws against prostitution can be challenged?

No.

It means that state laws against prostitution (and a variety of other illegal behaviors) are flagrantly unconstitutional.

If Mr. Justice Kennedy is correct in the following, speaking for the Court: " "These references show an emerging awareness that liberty gives substantial protection to adult persons in deciding how to conduct their private lives in matters pertaining to sex",

How much MORE protection must liberty entail if the way you conduct your private life in matters pertaining to sex is ALSO the way you make a living?

23 posted on 06/26/2003 1:41:10 PM PDT by Jim Noble
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To: You Dirty Rats
If you read today's decision (and accept its reasoning)-try to construct a rational basis for laws against prostitution.

Just try.

24 posted on 06/26/2003 1:43:35 PM PDT by Jim Noble
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To: You Dirty Rats
Oh God, don't even go there...

You're right, but I don't even want to consider the ramifications.
25 posted on 06/26/2003 1:44:47 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: DoughtyOne
Don't forget the MILITARY.
26 posted on 06/26/2003 1:44:59 PM PDT by petitfour
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To: Jim Noble
Folks, our nation has simply crumbled in the last 19 years. I don't think we have any idea how badly. For all intents we're on the verge of losing it.
27 posted on 06/26/2003 1:47:27 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: Jim Noble
Exactly. Excellent point.
28 posted on 06/26/2003 1:48:05 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: petitfour
We'll just see if the 'he grabbed my crotch' works as well as the 'he just grabbed my breast' line did. Whatya wanna bet there won't will be an in-house fix for that one. LOL

I agree. The inclusion of homosexuals in the military is an abomination to me. Beyond that, I wouldn't want to share close combat quarters with homosexuals. While I may, and do, associate with them at work, when it comes to intimate settings like combat, absolutely no way.

Paint me as old-fashing or what, no way!
29 posted on 06/26/2003 1:52:12 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: Dog Gone; All
What will the Supreme Court's decision mean for the military?

Today, the Supreme Court held that the Constitution protects the liberty of homosexual persons to engage in "intimate conduct" in accordance with their personal preferences. Writing for the majority, Justice Anthony Kennedy effectively demolished the Court's precedent from Bowers v. Hardwick, expressly overruling it and its holding that states could regulate the conduct of homosexual persons.

What does this mean for the current law banning gays in the military?

That ban exists as a matter of federal law -- 10 U.S.C. 654 -- and presumably can be overruled by a decision of the Supreme Court. I think that one of the first effects of Lawrence will be to trigger a challenge in U.S. District Court to the current policy banning gays in the military. That challenge will essentially cite Lawrence for the proposition that homosexual conduct is a fundamental right that the state cannot burden without some compelling interest -- and that the restrictions must be narrowly tailored to that compelling interest. The plaintiffs will argue that this policy (the "Don't ask, don't tell" policy) burdens the right of gay soldiers to engage in the conduct they want to, and that such a burden on a fundamental right is unconstitutional. Given the Court's holding today in Lawrence, I think that a lower court would almost certainly side with the plaintiffs.

The only possible savior for the military's ban will be the "national security" deference sometimes given to the Executive Branch and the military by the courts. In recent cases, such as challenges to President Bush's war on Iraq, the courts have expressly deferred to executive judgment on military matters, and left such issues to be decided by the political branches. Such "national security" deference was also invoked by the Supreme Court in Korematsu v. United States, where the Court upheld the detention of Japanese-Americans during World War II.

However, I don't think such deference will save the ban on gays in the ranks. The Court has held in religious freedom cases that the military can curtail certain personal freedoms, such as the right of Jews to wear certain religious garb. However, this is different. This ban places much more of a burden on the rights of gays than the military's uniform policies do, and this ban has a much more drastic effect (automatic discharge). After reading the Court's opinion in Lawrence, I think it's likely that this ban will be struck down as unconstitutional.

posted by Phillip at 8:21 AM

http://philcarter.blogspot.com/2003_06_22_philcarter_archive.html#105664089655662077

31 posted on 06/26/2003 1:54:39 PM PDT by aristeides
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To: aristeides
The SCOTUS turned Pandora's Box inside out on this one. We'll be seeing this case law quoted for the next 100 years.
32 posted on 06/26/2003 1:58:42 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: DoughtyOne
OK, then, consider the ramifications of THIS:

Has anybody else noticed what authority Justice Kennedy quoted in his opinion?

THE EUROPEAN COURT OF HUMAN RIGHTS, THAT'S WHO!!!!

He cited a 1981 legal precedent from Europe in a decision that overrules a SCOTUS precedent from 1986!!!!

How does THAT grab you???

It's bad enough that he used the Constitution for kindling; now they're burning the Declaration of Independence!!
33 posted on 06/26/2003 1:59:12 PM PDT by You Dirty Rats
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To: You Dirty Rats
I didn't read the ruling. Now I'm both happy that I didn't and angry that I didn't.

Your comments are dead on target from my vantage point.

Folks seem to think the European Union or things that take place in Europe don't affect us.

Now they should know.
34 posted on 06/26/2003 2:05:48 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: DoughtyOne
I agree.
35 posted on 06/26/2003 2:12:14 PM PDT by Im Your Huckleberry
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To: Jim Noble
Like I said, based on Kennedy's statement:

Legalized incest, pedophilia, necrophilia, bestiality, gay marriage, man and goat marraige, man and well-preserved corpse marriage, men marrying nine year old girls, female teachers having sex with twelve year old students, homosexuals legally raping children...

It's all coming, now...just wait...just you wait...

36 posted on 06/26/2003 2:14:59 PM PDT by Im Your Huckleberry
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To: You Dirty Rats
I'm glad I didn't know this before.

Now that I do know it, I wish to God I didn't...

37 posted on 06/26/2003 2:16:17 PM PDT by Im Your Huckleberry
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To: DoughtyOne
SCOTUS to Texas:

Say hello to your new masters -- THE EUROPEANS!!

BOW DOWN to the FRENCH, Texas!!

If THIS doesn't convince the people of the United States that the legal culture in this country is out of control, and that we need Justices who respect the UNITED STATES Constitution, nothing will.
38 posted on 06/26/2003 2:23:04 PM PDT by You Dirty Rats
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To: You Dirty Rats
"Do you, Todd, take this gerbil, Lemmywinks, to be your loving rodent...to cram and to hold, in your rectum and in health, so long as Lemmywinks can breathe...answer now, by saying, I do..."

"And do you, Lemmywinks, take this creep, to be your loving pervert...to gasp and to choke, in his rectum while you can breathe...answer now by squeaking..."

That's where we're headed, dude...

39 posted on 06/26/2003 2:23:34 PM PDT by Im Your Huckleberry
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To: You Dirty Rats
Well I'd like to argue against your premise, but I'm too busy bowing from California.

not
40 posted on 06/26/2003 2:27:47 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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