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Windshield Verdict
WBAP ^ | 6/28/03 | Self

Posted on 06/26/2003 9:47:51 AM PDT by Young Werther

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To: pepperhead
I don't think the jury is going to buy this.
101 posted on 06/26/2003 12:28:53 PM PDT by MEG33
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To: Lijahsbubbe
It's almost unbelieveable, isn't it. I stopped to help a lady one time who had struck and killed a Beagle that was running loose on Highway 41 in Atlanta. She had pulled over and flagged me down - she was completely hysterical. About five minutes after I stopped, here came the owner of the dog who had been out looking for him. She was hysterical too. We all had a good cry, then I helped them wrap the dog up in a blanket and put him in the owner's trunk (there was no question of a vet) and followed her home to make sure she was o.k.

There we were all doing everything we could to help the poor lady whose dog was already dead - - and here this evil woman drives home with a human being, still alive, actually stuck in her windshield.

It seems to me that she either lacks a heart and a soul, or lost them somewhere along the way.

102 posted on 06/26/2003 12:30:41 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (. . . there is nothing new under the sun.)
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To: small_l_libertarian; cherry
Not only should she have tried to save him, as a nurses aid, she could have taken some immediate means herself to save him while she waited for the ambulance. She cared only about herself and what would happen to her--murder, then, by way of selfishness.
103 posted on 06/26/2003 12:40:13 PM PDT by MizSterious (Support whirled peas!)
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To: AnAmericanMother
Well put.
104 posted on 06/26/2003 12:40:49 PM PDT by MEG33
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To: whereasandsoforth
The news keeps calling him a "homeless" man. What? A homeless yuppie?

I forget the details about poor Gregory Biggs, but he was struggling in his life and seemed like a good person. He was trying to get back on track in his life when this monster ended it for him. There is some about Biggs background on this thread:

Windshield case: Was it murder? (Chante Mallard Murder Trial)

Biggs, 37, had lost his truck, his home and his livelihood.

But he never lost hope.

For almost two years, the former bricklayer lived on the streets and in homeless shelters.

But Biggs had a plan to get his life back on track. He and Rafael Gomez, whom he had met at the Salvation Army shelter in Fort Worth, discussed going into the masonry business together. Gomez had a car but needed to save enough money to buy a truck.

"He asked me to hold his tools for him," Gomez said. "I said I sure would; I would take care of them. He even loaned me $60."

Gomez later moved out of the shelter and became a cook at a boarding house. He still had Biggs' belongings and the hope that the men would work together. In October 2001, he tried to page his old friend.

Biggs didn't respond.

Months later, while watching the news, Gomez found out why.

"They mentioned Gregory Glenn Biggs. I had to look twice. When they showed his picture, it shocked me," Gomez said.

Gomez sent the tools to Biggs' son, Brandon, now a 20-year-old student at Southwestern Assemblies of God University in Waxahachie. Brandon Biggs was the only family member to maintain contact with Gregory Biggs after he became homeless.

Gregory Biggs' former mother-in-law, Carol Smith, said she learned about his plight in a phone call.

"He called Brandon one day. I said, `Greg, do you have a phone number where Brandon can call you?' " Smith remembered. "He said, `I wish I did,' which broke my heart because I didn't know he was in a shelter. That's when I found out."

Smith said Biggs married her daughter, Tammy, in October 1982 after the teen-ager became pregnant. About a year later, she said, he began showing signs of mental illness.

"It scared her to death," Carol Smith said of her daughter. "She was just 15. She didn't know what to do."

The couple divorced in December 1984. Gregory Biggs saw his son whenever possible, sometimes at a Fort Worth homeless shelter.

Carol Smith said Biggs was embarrassed by his situation.

"I didn't want everybody to think Greg was just a down-and-out - no good," she said. "He wasn't. He was a great guy. ... He just had gotten out of work, lost his truck, and that's what happened. It did matter to him."

Kay Scaggs, facility supervisor for the Day Resource Center, a daytime refuge for the homeless, said Biggs often came by to shower, use the phone and pick up his mail.

Scaggs said she last saw Biggs several weeks before he died.

A card addressed only to "Dad" had arrived at the center. Inside was a picture of a boy wearing a football uniform and a message asking his father to call him. Scaggs could see the resemblance between the boy and Gregory Biggs.

She gave Biggs the card.

"I said, `You call him and let him know you're OK ... he needs to talk to you," Scaggs said. "I made him call him that day.

"Next thing I know, I was hearing about him on TV."

Scaggs said she knew that Biggs had mental problems.

Still, she said: "He knew enough not to walk out in front of a car. He was an all-right guy. I sure hated to hear that she left him there to die."

Lisa Cook Schoensee graduated with Biggs from Evangel Temple Christian School in Grand Prairie in 1982.

She said she can't comprehend how the good-natured, well-mannered, quiet student she knew could end up as a homeless man who bled to death lodged in the windshield of a car.

Biggs was a handsome young man who was voted "Most Teachable" his junior year and was a member of the prayer club. Schoensee still has snapshots from a senior year carwash at which students threw a bucket of water on Biggs -- a prank that drew laughter from him.

She was heartbroken to learn how he died.

"Nobody deserves that," Schoensee said. "He was still a human being. He did have a past. He was a nice guy when I knew him. I don't know what happened to him later in life, but I'll always remember the nice, polite man who I went to school with."


105 posted on 06/26/2003 12:48:06 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Bu-bye Dixie Chimps! / Check out my Freeper site !: http://home.attbi.com/~freeper/wsb/index.html)
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To: kitkat
"But there was a live human being in extreme agony, and that would have MADE me call for help for him."

I think the point you just made is why so many of us are just appalled at her reaction. For you and me and most of us (thankfully), the panic would have led us to call 911 as quickly as possible, and render whatever assistance we could until the ambulance arrived. What she did is simply beyond understanding. It's an alien concept that I honestly cannot grasp--not acting to save someone's life, when it was so very possible it could be saved.

106 posted on 06/26/2003 12:53:36 PM PDT by MizSterious (Support whirled peas!)
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To: whereasandsoforth
Texas has and always will take a lot of heat and ridicule from the more "sophisticated" states. As a life-long Texan, the only way I can explain this is to equate these feelings to how Old Europe thinks about America. Texas will always be the elephant in the middle of the room.

Excellent ! And Amen !!

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107 posted on 06/26/2003 12:55:15 PM PDT by MeekOneGOP (Bu-bye Dixie Chimps! / Check out my Freeper site !: http://home.attbi.com/~freeper/wsb/index.html)
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To: MeeknMing
Mental illness, what a horrible thing.
108 posted on 06/26/2003 1:05:47 PM PDT by Lijahsbubbe
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To: whereasandsoforth
Texas has and always will take a lot of heat and ridicule from the more "sophisticated" states. As a life-long Texan, the only way I can explain this is to equate these feelings to how Old Europe thinks about America. Texas will always be the elephant in the middle of the room.

I know I'm proud to be in a state were cattle still have the right-of-way in downtown Ft. Worth and where, the last I heard, there was still a little-known law on the books that allowed hanging for horse thievery.

It means we don't tolerate anyone screwing around with us. Don't Mess with Texas!

109 posted on 06/26/2003 1:07:47 PM PDT by hispanarepublicana (successful, educated unauthentic latina--in Patrick Leahy's eyes, at least)
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To: Lijahsbubbe
God bless all the selfless:

A friend of mine was driving across the US to join his fiance for their wedding. Halfway along his trip, he noticed a bad accident and exited his car to help.

Unfortunately, in the dark and rain, he was struck and killed by a truck trying to reach an accident victim.

Incidentally, this same guy still ocassionally suffered the effects of the torture he experienced in an Iranian prison more than 20 years prior. His imprisonment was due to his religious beliefs.

What an angel!


110 posted on 06/26/2003 1:09:55 PM PDT by kulot
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To: kulot
How sad. He suffered as a prisoner, and still had a heart big enough to help others.
111 posted on 06/26/2003 1:12:59 PM PDT by Lijahsbubbe
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To: AnAmericanMother
"It seems to me that she either lacks a heart and a soul, or lost them somewhere along the way."

No, it seems that she is a woman without a brain.
I know, we can not really put people like this to sleep, but she should never be allowed to be around humans, without a diaper and a chain.
112 posted on 06/26/2003 1:17:20 PM PDT by AlexW
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To: hispanarepublicana
Though a native ,I've lived elsewhere and been teased about my accent,etc.I have always taken pride in my state and fed the taunts laughingly right back at them!My family came here in the 1830s before the revolution.We are pretty strict about justice.
113 posted on 06/26/2003 1:18:37 PM PDT by MEG33
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To: MizSterious
Some people have a cigarette after sex....Chante checks on Whitey pokin' out over the hood of her car.....
114 posted on 06/26/2003 1:20:44 PM PDT by ProtectCLB
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To: hispanarepublicana
“the last I heard, there was still a little-known law on the books that allowed hanging for horse thievery”

Sounds like it could be true, but it’s not. You may refer to Texas Penal Code Section 31.01—Theft. Stealing a horse is either a State Jail Felony (a bizarre creation of pure politics and jail funding, the lowest level of felony) or a Third Degree Felony, depending on the head of horses (or cattle or other livestock).
115 posted on 06/26/2003 1:21:44 PM PDT by Stat-boy
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To: Young Werther
How is what this woman did any different from what Ted Kennedy did to Mary Jo Kopechne? She lived for a minumum of seven hours in that car, scratching for her life and gasping for air. But TED'S the grand old man of the Senate. Bah.
116 posted on 06/26/2003 1:22:37 PM PDT by veronica (http://www.petitiononline.com/KN50711/petition.html - Confirm Daniel Pipes to USIP ......sign this!)
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To: veronica
You know the answer,I'll bet.
117 posted on 06/26/2003 1:28:54 PM PDT by MEG33
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To: hunter112
And why, might I ask, should the citizens of Texas have to support this callous murderer for life?
118 posted on 06/26/2003 1:31:20 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon liberty, it is essential to examine principles - -)
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To: laweeks
Is getting on the soapbox about hate crimes really necessary? Ironically, by obsessing over it you are no different than those in favor of hate crimes.
119 posted on 06/26/2003 1:51:11 PM PDT by Conservative til I die (They say anti-Catholicism is the thinking man's anti-Semitism; that's an insult to thinking men)
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To: veronica
Do you know what the sentence is yet?
120 posted on 06/26/2003 1:58:29 PM PDT by Robert A Cook PE (I can only support FR by donating monthly, but ABBCNNBCBS continue to lie every day!)
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