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To: VRWC_minion
A consenting adult is 16. My daughter is 17. Can I have sex with her ?

No, but for reasons totally unrelated to those espoused by the moralists in their crusade against gay people.

The main reason incest is criminalized is because children from incestuous unions are more likely to be deformed, mentally retarded, and generally undesirable.

There is no such risk with consensual gay sex.

I concede that there were undoubtedly religious and moral beliefs that motivated the anti-incest laws when they were first passed.

Even though these reasons are inappropriate grounds for passing laws limiting personal behavior, there are other legitimate bases for outlawing incest, noted above.

I'm just wondering when the simpletons here will realize that consensual gay sex is not incest. Nor is it pedophilia, nor is it bestiality. The concept is not a difficult one to grasp.

Trace

619 posted on 06/26/2003 10:11:53 AM PDT by Trace21230 (Ideal MOAB test site: Paris)
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To: Trace21230
The main reason incest is criminalized is because children from incestuous unions are more likely to be deformed, mentally retarded, and generally undesirable.

So, If I put my 17 year old daughter on the pill we can then have sex.

623 posted on 06/26/2003 10:13:23 AM PDT by VRWC_minion (Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and most are right)
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To: Trace21230
We're not "simpletons" to believe that the Constitution doesn't prohibit laws on the books for 140 years that say that buggery is illegal. We're constitutionalists.
627 posted on 06/26/2003 10:14:11 AM PDT by tomahawk
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To: Trace21230
The main reason incest is criminalized is because children from incestuous unions are more likely to be deformed, mentally retarded, and generally undesirable.

But what if she takes the pill? Then is it OK?

637 posted on 06/26/2003 10:16:45 AM PDT by The Red Zone
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To: Trace21230
Don't forget the inherent possibilities of abuse of power and trust as well as the manipulation that goes along with incest - which is why it is deemed a criminal act.
642 posted on 06/26/2003 10:17:39 AM PDT by Chancellor Palpatine (Winning flame wars on the net is like winning a medal at the Special Olympics)
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To: Trace21230
The main reason incest is criminalized is because children from incestuous unions are more likely to be deformed, mentally retarded, and generally undesirable.

I beg to differ. The main reason against incest and rather obvious is the detriment to the child being sexually abused or used by the adult parent. I'm not aware of any cultures outside dog cultures that endorse parent/child incest.

649 posted on 06/26/2003 10:19:24 AM PDT by wardaddy (DIVERSITY IS BEST SERVED EARNED)
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To: Trace21230
The main reason incest is criminalized is because children from incestuous unions are more likely to be deformed, mentally retarded, and generally undesirable.

So using this logic, I guess a father can screw his 16 year old son, then? If not, on what grounds would you oppose such acts?
652 posted on 06/26/2003 10:24:17 AM PDT by Antoninus (In hoc signo, vinces †)
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To: Trace21230
The main reason incest is criminalized is because children from incestuous unions are more likely to be deformed, mentally retarded, and generally undesirable.

So using this logic, I guess a father can screw his 16 year old son, then? If not, on what grounds would you oppose such acts?
653 posted on 06/26/2003 10:24:17 AM PDT by Antoninus (In hoc signo, vinces †)
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To: Trace21230
The main reason incest is criminalized is because children from incestuous unions are more likely to be deformed, mentally retarded, and generally undesirable.

So using this logic, I guess a father can screw his 16 year old son, then? If not, on what grounds would you oppose such acts?
672 posted on 06/26/2003 10:26:36 AM PDT by Antoninus (In hoc signo, vinces †)
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To: Trace21230
The main reason incest is criminalized is because children from incestuous unions are more likely to be deformed, mentally retarded, and generally undesirable.

There is no such risk with consensual gay sex.

True, but there are other risks to public health, risks that extend way beyond any "product" of an incestuous union. Not to mention the risks to the public purse when those risks manifest themselves, and under "equal protection" we the taxpayers, will have to pay for the treatment and sustainment of the doomed individual(s).

Besides who are we to say that a deformed and/or mentally retarded kid is "generally undesirable"? </ sarcasm

1,428 posted on 06/26/2003 6:26:06 PM PDT by El Gato
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