[puroresu]

It doesn't work that way. The more "sexually liberated" a society gets, the bigger and more intrusive its government gets. Government was smaller, less intrusive, and taxes were lower back in the sexually conservative fifties.

The sexual revolution of the sixties sparked the biggest expansion of government we've ever had, even bigger than the New Deal.

Look at Europe. Is sexually libertine Sweden a haven for low taxes and gun ownership and property rights? No, it's the opposite.

Sexual libertinism causes government intrusiveness to increase. That's why "liberals" and socialists are sexually "libertarian".

Show me a society with legal abortion, legal gay marriage, legal gay sodomy, legal pornography, and a generally "open" attitude toward sex, and I'll show you a society with astronomical taxes, fanatically strict regulations on private property, rabid levels of gun control, wall to wall socialism, and tons of restrictions on political dissent and speech.

Alexis de Tocqueville was correct when he associated America's freedom and success with it's high moral standards. As we've lost those standards, government has grown exponentially.

[Redcloak]

You're mistaking association with causality. There's no way to show that loose sexual mores cause socialist governments. The Taliban, the Saudis, and a host of other nations all run horribly instrusive governments. They also enforce a sexual morality that would make some FReepers swoon.

[tdadams]

The more "sexually liberated" a society gets, the bigger and more intrusive its government gets. Government was smaller, less intrusive, and taxes were lower back in the sexually conservative fifties.

Correlation does not equal causation. Surely you know that. I could probably produce a study showing that cigar smokers earn 50% more than the national average, but it doesn't mean my income will necessarily go up if I start smoking cigars.

[fooman]

Best post on this thread.

We can use the constitution to say that 'free love' equals liberty, but society is then expected to pick up the pieces.