[Redcloak]

You're mistaking association with causality. There's no way to show that loose sexual mores cause socialist governments. The Taliban, the Saudis, and a host of other nations all run horribly instrusive governments. They also enforce a sexual morality that would make some FReepers swoon.

[puroresu]

Oh sure, you can name a few Islamic states that are sexually conservative and repressive, but that shows the beauty of Judeo-Christian morality. It produces healthy societies without repression. It did so here in the U.S. for decades.

Once a society becomes sexually libertine, though, it invariably becomes socialist and highly repressive. The European Union will be very "tolerant" of abortion and homosexuality, but not so tolerant of private property, gun ownership, free speech, and the right of the people to keep what they earn.

It just works that way. People who become obsessed with sex as a form of "liberation" lose their actual liberties. The rot their behavior creates in the society requires massive government intervention, and in fact invites it.

Do you think Teddy Kennedy, Chuck Schumer, and Hitlery Clinton support gay rights because they want to get government off our backs? Hell no! They support it because the gay agenda offers massive opportunities to expand government power.

Canada is another example. It's increasingly "tolerant" of abortion and homosexuality, and increasingly oppressive. You can now be fined there for quoting the Bible in a newspaper ad.

America's headed in the same direction.