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To: Coleus
As Bob Grant would say "It's sick out there, and getting sicker."

A shame really. This country was beautifully conceived, grew mightily to adulthood, accomplished wonderous things in maturity (space flight, defeat of totalitarianism, technological wonders, etc...) and is growing sick and twisted in it's old age. I have this really bad feeling that Dubya will be the last great POTUS (unless by some miracle Condi, Jeb or Ridge can defeat Hillary) and the final descent will begin.

7 posted on 06/25/2003 7:01:09 PM PDT by MattinNJ (One fine beautiful sunny day in Havana, I will take a pi$$ on Castro's grave.)
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To: MattinNJ
I agree...

I'm glad you didn't say Colin...

I listen to Bob everyday, have called the show and met him a couple of times. He's a lot different in person.
9 posted on 06/25/2003 7:32:17 PM PDT by Coleus (God is Pro Life and Straight and gave an innate predisposition for self-preservation and protection)
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To: MattinNJ
the FOUNDING FATHERS UNLEASHED

WARNING...

"We have no government armed with power capable of contending with human passions unbridled by morality and religion...Our Constitution was made only for a moral and religious people. It is wholly inadequate to the government of any other." - John Adams, October 11, 1798

WARNING...

"Have you ever found in history, one single example of a Nation thoroughly corrupted that was afterwards restored to virtue?... And without virtue, there can be no political liberty....Will you tell me how to prevent riches from becoming the effects of temperance and industry? Will you tell me how to prevent luxury from producing effeminacy, intoxication, extravagance, vice and folly?..." - John Adams, in a letter to Thomas Jefferson

The entire argument about sexual behavior is so simple it can be reduced to the following: Should there be any social rules about what sexual activity a human being engages in?

If the answer is no then everyone should just shut up...hetero is okay, cousins are okay, polygamy is okay, bi is okay; gay is okay, 13-year olds are okay, and one or one-hundred-at-a-time are okay, et. al.

However, if a society decides that certain rules about who does whom when and where is functional and perhaps even necessary, all that is left is to decide is WHAT are the rules of sexual behavior and WHO shall make them...simple.

Those who follow the 'rules' are then NORMAL and all the rest are PERVERTS or DEVIANTS... so very, very simple...you decide.

Van & Katherine Jenerette

www.jenerette.com

30 posted on 06/26/2003 12:54:23 PM PDT by Van Jenerette (Our Republic...If We Can Keep It!)
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