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I hear ya! I didn't want or need anything from the ex, and was content to keep it that way. In fact, one of her demands during negotiation for when she was going to sign over custody was that she not pay any support. Fine. She never would have paid it anyway. She ended up getting custody again after making life for my daughter a living hell and threatening that if she went along with my having custody, she would NEVER be allowed to live with her or my daughter's little sister again (from her 3rd failed marriage). She also put a new 30" color tv in her bedroom at her place and made all kinds of promisses. She wasn't there long before the tv came and cable came out of her bedroom and the allowance that she had been promised dissapeared along with the promise of moving closer to here, where the rest of her family and friends are. But mom got to pick up a new SUV and a couple of new PC's with a high speed internet connection and digital cable in mom's bedroom once the checks started rolling in for 2 kids from two different men, as well as her 4th husband paying most of the bills. The only thing I hate worse than subsizing that harpy's largess is seeing my little girl realize that she's been used by her own mother for cash and prizes. My ex is a real piece of work on many fronts. She's made it clear who comes first in line...her 4th husband instead of her 1st born.

I've seen a lot in my time. I've seen men who paid far more than what was required of them turn around and have to pay some bill the mom was supposed to pay on top of everything.

I have a friend who never missed a payment. On top of that he purchased clothing for the two children because mom wouldn't. After years of this, the old wind bag thanked him by marrying a guy employed locally, then moving about 400 miles away. The courts allowed this even though they had joint custody. The flimsey stipulation was that she meet him half-way with the children for visitation. She didn't do this once. The courts couldn't have cared less.

One day the father gets a phone call from his crying child. On top of the support payments, he was giving the ex money to pay the private school bill. As it turns out the school was on the verge of expelling the child for non-payment of tuition fees. Immediately he had to drop everything and travel 400 miles to pay the bill.

Women who spout their lovely stories about men haven't a clue what the men go through. You can hardly find a second wife who doesn't understand just what men do go through, and how abusive the system is to them.

We could go on all day, but I don't pass up a chance to voice the men's side in part.

Take care.