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Maybe I'm not a WASP afterall.
1 posted on 06/24/2003 10:33:30 AM PDT by blam
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To: blam
I find this science totally fascinating. I really hope that with time it will become easier and more widespread (meaning cheaper) to obtain, exchange and compare DNA data, the way we now exchange genealogy files.

2 posted on 06/24/2003 10:37:39 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan (Fighting for Freedom and Having Fun)
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3 posted on 06/24/2003 10:40:32 AM PDT by blam
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To: blam
I find this science totally fascinating. I really hope that with time it will become easier and more widespread (meaning cheaper) to obtain, exchange and compare DNA data, the way we now exchange genealogy files.

4 posted on 06/24/2003 10:40:44 AM PDT by ElkGroveDan (Fighting for Freedom and Having Fun)
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To: blam
Well, I guess it's a pretty decent confirmation of the demonstrated human ability to tell when somebody "looks English." There's that sort of longish facial structure, and something about the mouth (not just bad teeth).

Churchill made an off-hand remark about that physical characteristic in his "History of the English-Speaking People."

8 posted on 06/24/2003 10:46:38 AM PDT by r9etb
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To: blam
Maybe my ex had it right when she called me a Basquard...
9 posted on 06/24/2003 10:47:39 AM PDT by trebb
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Neat! BTTT
10 posted on 06/24/2003 10:48:56 AM PDT by Constitution Day (Have *you* taunted a liberal today?)
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The Y chromosomes of men from Wales and Ireland resemble those of the Basques. Some believe that the Basques, from the border of France and Spain, are the original Europeans.

Any bets on the subject of Ray Capt's next opus?

Heck, it might even be 36 pages of scholarship (including covers).


"In a hidden library in a forgotten catacomb beneath an abandoned rectory behind Westminster Abbey, lies an ancient Gaelic scroll inscribed in Hebrew cuneiform..."

14 posted on 06/24/2003 10:58:01 AM PDT by Sabertooth
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Goldstein's team collected DNA samples from more than 1,700 men living in towns across England, Ireland, Scotland and Wales

That doesn't sound like a very large sample. There must be at least 50,000 settlements in the UK. Seems like a pretty tenuous basis to start rewriting history.

15 posted on 06/24/2003 11:00:40 AM PDT by alnitak ("That kid's about as sharp as a pound of wet liver" - Foghorn Leghorn)
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To: blam
The Y chromosomes of men from Wales and Ireland resemble those of the Basques. Some believe that the Basques, from the border of France and Spain, are the original Europeans.

Very interesting. That means that the Celts originally didn't speak an I-E language, which makes sense. I wonder if that explains Pictish.

24 posted on 06/24/2003 11:38:10 AM PDT by Question_Assumptions
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Some Scottish men's Y's are remarkably similar to those of southern England.

Depends which bit of Scotland the men tested came from, I should imagine.
IIRC, the Angles were colonising what is now southern Scotland at exactly the same time as the Scots were arriving from Ireland.

26 posted on 06/24/2003 11:58:33 AM PDT by Da_Shrimp
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ping for the bees in the room
27 posted on 06/24/2003 12:05:39 PM PDT by CGVet58 (I still miss my ex-wife... but my aim is improving!)
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30 posted on 06/24/2003 12:32:31 PM PDT by LiteKeeper
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Wasn't there another article a couple of weeks ago saying just the opposite: that Y chromosomes show that the population of England had been almost entirely displaced at the time of the Anglo-Saxon invasions?
33 posted on 06/24/2003 2:03:27 PM PDT by aristeides
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Some Scottish men's Y's are remarkably similar to those of southern England.

No surprise there. Their ancestors had good horses. (Or to be more precise, they stole good horses!)

37 posted on 06/24/2003 3:43:02 PM PDT by Redcloak (All work and no FReep makes Jack a dull boy. All work and no FReep make s Jack a dul boy. Allwork an)
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Geneology bump. This is fascinating. In fact, it's kind of a plus for my tribe (Celts).
51 posted on 06/24/2003 6:42:31 PM PDT by Scenic Sounds (Just trying to escape this ugly June gloom, these clouds in A minor, and this vague sense of doom.)
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this is interesting, and my conclusions were in error.

with any luck, in my lifetime we can see some detailed workup of indo-european dna and migration patterns approximated.


80 posted on 04/21/2006 6:36:43 PM PDT by WoofDog123
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actually, if they are saying mitochondrial dna didn't vary from region to region, is this consistent with what I proposed? If they are including the continent, that is a different issue than if just britain.


81 posted on 04/21/2006 6:38:01 PM PDT by WoofDog123
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82 posted on 04/21/2006 6:41:45 PM PDT by kalee
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88 posted on 04/23/2006 10:03:52 AM PDT by martin_fierro (I got squirrelly nieces & nephews)
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