Court Ruling Threatens To Pull Federal Money From Libraries That Don't Install Internet Filters

Talon News ^ | 06/24/03 | Jimmy Moore

[eyespysomething]

If it wasn't for the 2-party 1 idea system our country has fallen into, a 3rd party would be much more viable. I don't like the LP stance on many issues, but I do believe in freedom to make decisions, bad or good, for myself, and for the government to get their noses out of so many social issues, fiscal issues, and thus get their hands out of my pocket.

Did you know GW Bush is on his way to becoming a bigger spender than Clinton. I like Bush, I am happy I voted for him but that's not what I want. Do you think the government should be funding the NEA (PBS)? That is only one of many examples of gov't waste of MINE AND YOUR MONEY!

As it is now, I am so busy voting AGAINST someone I rarely feel free to vote FOR someone. But that time is coming to a close. I am not the only one who feels this way.

[Protagoras]

They've done no such thing.

First of all, it was lost on you that they COULD do that.

Second of all, I'll bet they HAVE done that in may places over the years simply because they couldn't afford it anymore or people didn't utilize it enough to justify the expense.

Maybe not in the authoritarian Hillary utopia you seem to fantasize about, but other places where people still remember what it is like to be free.

[Protagoras]

So who is "they"?

[Roscoe]

they COULD do that

They COULD all vote for Harry Browne, they COULD all shave their heads and sell incense at the airport. They don't, they won't.

[Protagoras]

So there is no "they" to whom you want to admit?

They could wear swasticas to show who they truly are. They don't, they won't.

[Roscoe]

They could wear swasticas

American voters are Nazis? What a wretched philosophy Libertarianism is.

[Clinging Bitterly]

Stale thread I suppose, but I need to add a bit from our local librarian's tale. From an article in the local paper yesterday, the Eugene librarian (who is opposed to the internet filtering) says that installing filtering software on the library's 89 public computers (and there was a photo of these computers at our brand new library, I have never seen that many expen$ive 17" flat panel monitors in one place) would cost something like $276,000.00, plus maintenance costs. I didn't do the math, but at a glance, that figure doesn't sound right, unless they're putting a new server behind every computer. Course it'd be just like a governmemt entity to do something like that. I don't filter the kids' computer here at home (I police it myself), but I'm pretty sure I could do it for somewhat less than the library says it costs.

My own thoughts are, since the fedgov doesn't have any business funding local libraries (or schools, for that matter), let them all defy the ruling, and let the fedgov give US OUR money back - every penny. Then, let the decision to filter or not to filter be up to the local entities who run the libraries. Seems to me, the public in each locale would be more apt to get whatever it is they want that way.

[Protagoras]

The people you idolize wear swasticas. What a wretched philosophy you have.

[Roscoe]

The people you idolize wear swasticas.

Accusing America's citizens of wearing swastikas because they won't legalize dope shows what Libertarianism is really all about.

Drogen über alles!

[nopardons]

Historically, American governments, from local to federal, has had proscriptions against obscenity since before we were more than a few scattered colonies and weren't even a nation. The ONLY people, back then ( and progressively forwards, until the 1030s, long after the BLUE LAWS were instated here, BTW ) who even knew about swazticas, were anthropoloogists and a few occultists and that was 100+ years later.

Never heard of " banned in Boston ", except as a rock band ? You need to learn some history, dear, to fill that rather huge hole in your knowledge of American censorship.

[Roscoe]

Legalize obscenity and ban public libraries. What a strange philosophy they have.

[DPB101]

Congress has not only purchased books, it has purchased Bibles, hired ministers to proselytize and given land for the building of schools and churches. Some people think our Republic began after the Emerson case in 1947. Or when Harry Browne was born. Whatever came first.

[nopardons]

Very peculair...some people's ideas here. LOL

[nopardons]

Historical knowledge is our friend; it's a raging pity that so few know any.

[ActionNewsBill]

Why not just have sepatate computer ares for kids and grown-ups?

[ActionNewsBill]

ares = areas (early...no coffee yet)

[DPB101]

These freedom fighters who imagine themselves at Bunker Hill taking aim at the jack booted Redcoats don't seem to know the men who fought that battle went home and passed some laws which would make "civil libertarians" choke--including a state constitution which allowed the legislature to raise taxes to support religion.

[Protagoras]

Why not just have sepatate computer ares for kids and grown-ups?

That would work well on this forum too. I'll bet you can guess which posters on this thread would be in the children's section.

[Lancey Howard]

Justices John Paul Stevens, David Souter, and Ruth Bader Ginsburg in their dissent believe the law was too overbearing on the free speech rights of everyday citizens.

LOL, the usual scumbags, minus Breyer. These justices think it's a right, an entitlement even, for homeless Democrats to have full use of public libraries where they can spray the keyboards, curtains and upholstery while they stalk women and children.

Man, that is some Supreme Court we have.