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Dean Announces Presidential Candidacy
Live, Channel 3 Vermont | June 23, 2003

Posted on 06/23/2003 10:07:21 AM PDT by COUNTrecount

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To: Abram
I admit Bush can easily lose, although the odds are against it, but the best thing that can happen is if Dean gets the nomination (well, him or John Edwards). We'd beat his brains out. Dean is the democrat version of Bill Simon, an idealog that can't win.

21 posted on 06/23/2003 11:17:07 AM PDT by zbigreddogz
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To: Abram
You actually think that this guy can beat Dubya? No way. Dubya will win in a landslide no matter who he's up against.
22 posted on 06/23/2003 11:18:18 AM PDT by huck von finn
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To: mitchbert
What is he saying?
23 posted on 06/23/2003 11:19:29 AM PDT by huck von finn
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To: Impeach the Boy
Be careful there folks, the last thing we want to do is judge a candidate based on the behavior of his children. If we had done that the last time around we might have been looking at Gore vs. McCain.
24 posted on 06/23/2003 11:27:10 AM PDT by stimpyone
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To: COUNTrecount
Right now Rush is tearing Dean apart on his show by merely playing clips of his appearance yesterday on "Meet The Press." I missed that show and it is amazing how pathetic Dean sounded.
25 posted on 06/23/2003 11:49:51 AM PDT by PJ-Comix (He who laughs last was too dumb to figure out the joke first)
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To: COUNTrecount
It took him all this time to finally figure out what he's been doing for the last 6 months?
26 posted on 06/23/2003 11:51:57 AM PDT by Mo1
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To: areafiftyone
Dean got FREEPED by a Green!

http://www.cspan.org/

Click on LATEST VIDEO >>
Dean For America 2004 Campaign (06/23/2003)

Watch the cspan.org video. About 7:35 into the speech someone holds up a HUGE Green and black sign on what must be a 10 foor pole. On one side it says "NADER 7% IN VERMONT" and the other "VOTE FOR GREEN PARTY". At about 14:00 the Dean guys are losing it since the sign is right next to or behind Dean's head. At about 14:00 into it, some Dean guy tries to sit up on a stepladder behing Dean with a tiny sign trying to block it. About 17:00 the Deanies start duwling with the Nader sign trying to cover it. It's very distracting and takes all the attentiona way from Dean's boring speech. Very very funny.
27 posted on 06/23/2003 12:02:35 PM PDT by finnman69 (!)
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To: Abram
Abram, come on. I hope you're doing this to keep us from getting complacent, which IS correct and necessary, but Dean just ain't all that.

You can easily make an argument on his gun stance that goes something like, "Well, I guess Dean thinks guns are OK only for those nice white gentlemen in Vermont, not for those colored troublemakers in urban areas." Kerry & company will hammer him back to the left on this by primary day.

Although I didn't think his MTP appearance Sunday was a debacle like some say, I definitely came away less than impressed. He ain't winning southern states.

28 posted on 06/23/2003 12:07:45 PM PDT by Jhensy
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To: Abram; All
What was Dean debating with other Democrats over then? If it was just a open debate why didn't they invite McStain.;)

Clinton didn't have any anti-second amendment baggage either. We all seen what happened when he was president. If a gun banning bill crosses Dean's desk, put forth by his party, he will sign it. Gun owners know what happens when gun grabbers are in charge of any branch of the federal government. I live in Kentucky and Democrats control the house and Governorship. But in the National elections the state has been going almost completely Republican for some time now. Democrats send one congressmen now and haven't sent a Senator since Ford voted for the Assault Weapons Ban Bill.
29 posted on 06/23/2003 12:08:46 PM PDT by pepperhead
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To: finnman69
Dean got FREEPED by a Green!

Got to love the Green party.;)

30 posted on 06/23/2003 12:11:17 PM PDT by pepperhead
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To: All
The guy is a "nut". He's just another Gore with a better speaking voice. The Dems seem to have a big "shell game" going. Nuts are everywhere and no matter which one you look under, there is no "pea". All Losers!!!!
31 posted on 06/23/2003 12:12:47 PM PDT by Sacajaweau (God Bless Our Troops!!)
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To: finnman69
I commend the Greenie for doing that!!! But maybe it was really a Kerry guy getting back at the DEANYCREEPS for interrupting his speeches with Dean signs!
32 posted on 06/23/2003 12:20:39 PM PDT by areafiftyone (The U.N. needs a good Flush!)
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To: All
I don't think that we can sit back and think that Bush is going to cruise to victory. It is going to be a hell of a difficult fight to win the next election. More and more people are going around acting like victims and with the belief that the government owes them something. Don't sit back and relax now that our President has "won a war"...Bush Sr. did this and coasted on 88% approval ratings and then the economy crushed him. We got stuck with eight years of Clinton and a court system full of liberal appointees that will be there for years.
Kerry will be difficult to beat...so will Edwards. Don't underestimate their ability to raise money. A lot of people that I know are pretty excited about the Dean movement. This may just energize their base while we sit back and bask in leadership...2002 elections and the like. Look what happened in 1996...we had the Republican Revolution in 1994...took over both houses of Congress only to nominate an establishment candidate and get crushed again by a tarnished incumbent. Bush is working to move to an election stance...which means he MUST move to the center. The Right wing of the party threatens to bolt the party or sit out the election. Without moving the center...he will not get elected because the middle-American Soccer Moms will not vote for a right-wing ideologue. Dean is charismatic, appears moderate, and well educated. He comes from a independently-minded state and has demonstrated liberterian-type views on guns. Gore's theories of gun control, civil liberties, and environmental stances coupled with his less-than-charismatic personality cost him the election, but barely...without the Nader factor and millions of fundamentalist Christians sitting out the election (with millions of illegals, convicts, and dead voting on the other side). Every vote counts....don't get bogged down with one or two issues. Vote for the individual that will support your stances the MAJORITY of the time.

That's all.
33 posted on 06/23/2003 3:17:36 PM PDT by Abram
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