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Marchers urge Davis to support driver's licenses for undocumented aliens
North County Times ^ | 6/22/03 | EDWARD SIFUENTES

Posted on 06/22/2003 7:49:44 PM PDT by One_American

EDWARD SIFUENTES
Staff Writer

ESCONDIDO ---- A group of about 200 people marched to the Department of Motor Vehicles offices in Escondido on Saturday, but most of them don't have access to the services it provides.

The largely Latino and undocumented crowd were chanting loudly and carrying signs in support of a bill making its way through the state Legislature that would grant illegal immigrants the ability to apply for California-issued driver's licenses and identification cards.

"This would be a benefit to everyone, because it would mean safer roads," said Gustavo Munguia, who organized the march.

Munguia and others have organized several similar demonstrations throughout North County in recent years urging the governor to support licenses for undocumented immigrants.

Gov. Gray Davis has rejected several such bills.

Many of the demonstrators said they were unlicensed but drove regularly out of necessity to work, to doctor's appointments, to pick up their children at school and to do other family chores.

"We need the opportunity to drive legally," said Rolando Campos, of Solana Beach. "We all need to be able to drive."

Campos, who walked among the other marchers with his daughter, said he has been ticketed and jailed for driving without a license.

Men, women and children marched during the three-hour demonstration that began at the city's Grape Day Park along Broadway Avenue and continued to the DMV office and City Hall. Many in the group were carrying signs stating: "Without a license, we are a risk to other drivers."

State Sen. Gil Cedillo, D-Los Angeles, authored this year's Senate Bill 60, which would allow people who do not have legal status in the country to be eligible to apply for a state driver's license or identification card. The bill also would permit license applicants to submit a federal taxpayer identification number rather than the required social security number Californians must provide to obtain a driver's license.

Supporters of licenses for undocumented immigrants say giving them driver's licenses will make roads safer because they will be required to take driver's exams and have auto insurance. Critics contend such a policy would in effect reward illegal immigrants, encourage more illegal immigration and diminish national security.

Since 2000, Cedillo has introduced several bills that would give some immigrants licenses and each has failed to get the governor's approval because of concerns about national security.

"The tragedy of Sept. 11 made it abundantly clear that the driver's license is more than just a license to drive," Davis wrote in his veto message last year's version of the bill. "Unfortunately, a driver's license was in the hands of terrorists who attacked America that fateful day."

In 2001, Cedillo withdrew an earlier version of the bill after the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks on the East Coast. When he brought the bill back, it included several security provisions such as required finger printing and criminal background checks for immigrants applying for the licenses.

Munguia said security is not the issue, but rather that Davis is simply unwilling to give immigrants the privilege of licenses.

"The Assembly and the Senate, who represent the people, have passed it, but it is Davis who has refused to sign it," he said.

Contact staff writer Edward Sifuentes at (760) 740-5426 or esifuentes@nctimes.com.


TOPICS: Activism/Chapters; Culture/Society; Foreign Affairs; US: California
KEYWORDS: driverslicense; illegalimmigration
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To: Lazamataz
He can't hear you - he has his fingers in his ears now.

Maybe he doesn't think there's any hope for me because I'm just a weak little feeble-minded woman.
61 posted on 06/23/2003 12:11:12 PM PDT by Xenalyte (I may not agree with your bumper sticker, but I'll defend to the death your right to stick it)
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To: Xenalyte
Maybe he doesn't think there's any hope for me because I'm just a weak little feeble-minded woman.

Yeah, a weak little feeble-minded woman who can swing a 57" Claymore two-handed sword with enough strength to decapitate. :o)

62 posted on 06/23/2003 12:23:26 PM PDT by Lazamataz (PROUDLY POSTING WITHOUT READING THE ARTICLE SINCE 1999!)
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To: Kuksool; FITZ
That...and motor voter...
63 posted on 06/23/2003 12:28:14 PM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Lazamataz
That reminds me - it's about time for me to find a good tomahawk.

I also might be from an alleged cannibal tribe, so I think I'll carry around our tenderizer mallet and a little pouch of salt and pepper, and try patrons for tastiness every so often.
64 posted on 06/23/2003 12:38:33 PM PDT by Xenalyte (I may not agree with your bumper sticker, but I'll defend to the death your right to stick it)
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To: Xenalyte
That reminds me - it's about time for me to find a good tomahawk.

Marry me.

At least for a night.

65 posted on 06/23/2003 12:41:39 PM PDT by Lazamataz (PROUDLY POSTING WITHOUT READING THE ARTICLE SINCE 1999!)
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To: Lazamataz
But Xena's Guy would object, I'm pretty sure.
66 posted on 06/23/2003 12:46:09 PM PDT by Xenalyte (I may not agree with your bumper sticker, but I'll defend to the death your right to stick it)
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To: Xenalyte
But Xena's Guy would object, I'm pretty sure.

He can join us. I'm not selfish.

Groucho Marx: "Bigamy? Of course it's bigamy! Let's all be big for a change! (eyebrow waggle)"

67 posted on 06/23/2003 12:48:34 PM PDT by Lazamataz (PROUDLY POSTING WITHOUT READING THE ARTICLE SINCE 1999!)
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To: Roscoe
She can hope all she wants.
68 posted on 06/23/2003 1:00:31 PM PDT by Roscoe
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To: One_American
In a normal country, these 200 protesters would have been rounded up and jailed. Then they would have been deported.

Here, we pay attention to their bullshiite and treat them like citizens, except better.

Two words: we're doomed!

69 posted on 06/23/2003 1:03:09 PM PDT by Gritty
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To: Lazamataz
Ah, the putz is back! He's trying to needle me on the affirmative-action thread too. You'd think he'd have something better to do than poke a stranger.
70 posted on 06/23/2003 1:03:22 PM PDT by Xenalyte (I may not agree with your bumper sticker, but I'll defend to the death your right to stick it)
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To: Xenalyte
Ah, the putz is back! He's trying to needle me on the affirmative-action thread too.

Nook him, with the help of an AdminFriend.

You'd think he'd have something better to do than poke a stranger.

You set these up for me on purpose. :o)

71 posted on 06/23/2003 1:08:22 PM PDT by Lazamataz (PROUDLY POSTING WITHOUT READING THE ARTICLE SINCE 1999!)
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To: One_American
One question that keeps popping up in conversations with other patriotic Americans I know: Could any politician or gov/bureaucrat that knowingly allows this invasion to continue in full violation of federal law and/or their oath of office ever be in a position where their status is in jeopardy?.....such as recall or charges of violating federal law, etc.?
72 posted on 06/23/2003 1:27:16 PM PDT by american spirit (ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION = NATIONAL SUICIDE)
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To: Kuksool
We need the opportunity to drive legally," said Rolando Campos, of Solana Beach. "We all need to be able to drive

This is not about driving, it is about the other benefits they might be able to latch onto by having a California drivers license. Escondido is less than one hour's drive from Tijuana. If they want to drive legally, they can go to the Baja DMV and get Mexican licenses, which are recognized as valid by local police and CHP.

73 posted on 06/23/2003 3:16:30 PM PDT by Pa' fuera
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To: Xenalyte
Of course, because everyone knows that once you get your license, you automatically drive safely.

in this case, it is exactly the opposite, they drive very carefully now because they are scared to death of being pulled over by the cops. If you legitimize them by giving them licenses, their incentive to be safe is reduced.

74 posted on 06/23/2003 3:28:13 PM PDT by Pa' fuera
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To: judgeandjury
The best thing that could happen for Mexico right now is a bloody revolution. I feel it's time for us Americans to start up a fund to buy weapons for impoverished Mexican citizens who are tired of their do-nothing elitist government leaders.

the only trouble is, there is no right to bear those arms in Mexico.

75 posted on 06/23/2003 3:35:36 PM PDT by Pa' fuera
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To: upchuck
You are already a criminal because you are here without any kind of visa. I suppose becoming even more of a criminal by driving with out a driver's license isn't that big of a deal.

I'd bet the house they are also guilty of tax evasion and identity fraud- so driving without a license or insurance is only a problem to the extent that it could get them deported (and we all know what the chances are of that happening!)

76 posted on 06/23/2003 3:37:46 PM PDT by Pa' fuera
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To: Pa' fuera
Might I ask, making an assumption based on your screen name, whether you're of Hispanic derivation? (Did I say that in proper PC?)
77 posted on 06/23/2003 5:49:14 PM PDT by Xenalyte (I may not agree with your bumper sticker, but I'll defend to the death your right to stick it)
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To: Lazamataz
You set these up for me on purpose. :o)

Uh, heh heh, heh heh . . . heh heh, heh heh . . . she said "poke."


78 posted on 06/23/2003 5:56:04 PM PDT by Xenalyte (I may not agree with your bumper sticker, but I'll defend to the death your right to stick it)
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To: Black Agnes
BinGO!!! you've got it old chum. Now if this passes before the Recall vote, Will Gray out get re-elected? I believe he would.( Not legally of course, but nonetheless..."elected")
79 posted on 06/23/2003 5:58:57 PM PDT by Madcelt (Tis better to starve free,than live a fat slave- Aesop)
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To: janetgreen
the last time i was in santa ana was 15 years ago. my eye surgeon was there.

http://www.newsmax.com/images/side_ads/thoseshirts2.gif
80 posted on 06/23/2003 7:28:41 PM PDT by liberalnot (what democrats fear the most is real democracy. /s)
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