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Tax rebel can't sell his book, judge rules
first ammendment center.org ^ | 6.21.03 | The Associated Press

Posted on 06/22/2003 10:10:59 AM PDT by freepatriot32

LAS VEGAS — A tax protester may not sell his book that contends paying income tax is voluntary, a federal judge ruled June 16.

U.S. District Judge Lloyd D. George wrote in an order banning the book that Irwin Schiff is not protected by the First Amendment because he has encouraged people not to pay taxes.

"There is no protection ... for speech or advocacy that is directed toward producing imminent lawless action," George wrote in support of the preliminary injunction on the book, The Federal Mafia: How It Illegally Imposes and Unlawfully Collects Income Taxes.

The Internal Revenue Service claims Schiff has 3,100 clients attempting to evade $56 million in taxes.

Government attorneys have argued Schiff had been advocating the "false and frivolous position that paying federal income taxes is voluntary," and one called it one of the largest tax scams in U.S. history.

Schiff said the judge's order was wrong on all counts and he planned to appeal to the 9th U.S. Circuit Court of Appeals in San Francisco.

"There's a reason why my book is called The Federal Mafia and this is a perfect example," he said. "The government has just thrown the First Amendment out of the window, and if anybody can't see that they should be declared legally blind."

Schiff has been convicted twice on tax charges since 1978.

The IRS raided Schiff's office Feb. 11, and the government later filed a civil complaint against him and two associates in March. George issued a temporary order March 19 against Schiff, ordering him to stop selling his book, lecturing and giving seminars.

The latest ruling, in effect indefinitely, means Schiff, 75, cannot sell his book through his Web sites or the Las Vegas, Nev., office of his company, Freedom Books. The order also prohibits Schiff and his associates from preparing tax returns for others or assisting in tax preparation.

The American Civil Liberties Union of Nevada filed a friend-of-the-court brief saying Schiff's expression of his opinions should not be outlawed.

"It is unfortunate that the judge did not see the First Amendment violation," ACLU lawyer Allen Lichtenstein said. Lichtenstein also said the injunction only limits Schiff from distributing the book.

"There's a bit of irony that the injunction prevents Mr. Schiff from distributing the book but doesn't prevent anybody else" from doing so, he said. "One has to wonder what's the point since the book is clearly available to the public."

Eileen J. O'Connor, assistant Attorney General in charge of the Justice Department's Tax Division in Washington, D.C., praised the judge's ruling.

"Today's order is another in the long line of court orders stopping the sale of fraudulent tax scams," she said.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; Front Page News; Government; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Nevada
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To: The Red Zone
Good point, that didn't occur to me while replying and hits the nail on the head much better.
81 posted on 06/22/2003 1:37:08 PM PDT by Axenolith (<This space for rent>)
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To: Maceman
Whether you agree with him or not, Schiff is a brilliant and patriotic American who IMHO is very much to be admire by lovers of liberty.

He's a man who is comfortable duping people out of their money and risking jail.

82 posted on 06/22/2003 1:42:14 PM PDT by AppyPappy (If You're Not A Part Of The Solution, There's Good Money To Be Made In Prolonging The Problem.)
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To: trick question
He's a con man and charlatan and calling him a patriot is an insult to anyone who legitimately is a patriot at heart.

He is NOT a con man. A con man would not take the punishment and harrassment he has to make his point. If you read "The Great American Income Tax Hoax," you will find a very eye-opening and extremely well researched treatment of the history and operation of our tax laws.

He raises important points and issues and makes a very compelling case for his position. It is very difficult to dismiss his arguments out of hand if one is truly objective.

True, following his advice will certainly land someone in jail and in a heap of trouble with the IRS. But that says more about about the blatant tyranny of the income tax system -- and the judges who refuse to do the right thing when it comes to preserving our constitutional liberties.

Maybe you think that judges' opinions are always right and not subject to question. Certainly that is true from an enforcement standpoint. But I'm sure if you think about it, you will find at some issues on which you believe that the courts are overstepping their reach and making law -- as opposed to honestly applying it.

I have heard Schiff speak. He is brilliant, dynamic and totally dedicated to the cause for which he has sacrificed much. I do not have the courage he does, and so I have chosen not to follow his advice. I pay my taxes just like everybody else. But that says more about my own failings than it does about his.

Based on what he has put on the line -- and his total commitment to the continuing struggle for liberty as he sees it -- I would have to rank his patriotism right up there with that of the founders.

83 posted on 06/22/2003 1:43:34 PM PDT by Maceman
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To: templar
Tell that to folks selling bomb-making books.
84 posted on 06/22/2003 1:45:11 PM PDT by rwfromkansas ("There is dust enough on some of your Bibles to write 'damnation' with your fingers." C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: Axenolith
So the Bible, which could be construed by some as advocating the avoidance of certain people and behaviors (i.e. discrimination) could get the axe too???

It has in some circumstances. It is illegal to use the bible or it's phrases in many kinds of advertising (employment, housing, etc.)

85 posted on 06/22/2003 1:49:39 PM PDT by templar
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To: RgnadKzin; Howlin
FYI
86 posted on 06/22/2003 1:50:07 PM PDT by Carolinamom
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To: rwfromkansas
Tell that to folks selling bomb-making books.

OK, I'll bite. Which books are you referring to that advocate making bombs illegally, particularly ones that claim ther is no law against doing so and encouraging you to make or use one? Remember, I'm not talking about simple information, I'm talking about advocating and encouraging illegal acts. You see, Schiff isn't simply making philosophical arguments about tax laws, he is advocating tax evasion under the guise of phony legal arguments.

87 posted on 06/22/2003 1:54:29 PM PDT by templar
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To: templar
You have the perfect right to advocate illegal acts, yet you are responsible for not doing so in a place that will obviously induce a riot or stampede. Yelling "FIRE!" in a crowded theater is an excellent example of that. The speech in that PARTICULAR time and place, made LOUDLY and in TONE of alert, is naturally responded to by the crowd in a dangerous way -- a stampede to the exits. THe crowd has no time to think, to consider the words.

In a book, in an newspaper or magazine article, a pamphlet -- there is plenty of time for a reader to digect the words and to weigh fully his own actions as may be based on the advice of the author.

88 posted on 06/22/2003 2:00:50 PM PDT by bvw
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To: gitmo
Right-o. The Declarartion of Independence may not be published. This whole subject matter has been covered dueing the presidency of Adams -- the Aurora!

It will be a sad day for Liberty and the Constitution if this ruling is allowed to stand. To remember Ben Franklin's words of waring "If you can keep it!" Well, for idiotic rulings like this, we have NOT kept it.

89 posted on 06/22/2003 2:05:41 PM PDT by bvw
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To: Prodigal Son
So if he was giving the book away would it make it better?

Geez, doesn't anybody bother o read the article? "There is no protection ... for speech or advocacy that is directed toward producing imminent lawless action," . That means he can't legally advocate it at all.

Would I be wrong to publish a work calling for people to keep their kids at home?

No ABSOLUTELY NOT. You would be right to advocate such. You would also be doing something ILLEGAL, which is what we are talking about. To think that right and wrong is related to legal and illegal is foolish. Right and wrong are value judgments, Legal and Illegal are matters of law.

Finally, a book that explains a form of cryptography that will allow others to write the above illegal books/papers with no fear of the government detecting the illegal works. Illegal or not?

Well, at least we're back to legal and illegal. I have no idea if this would be legal or not. Probably fall under the USA Patriot Act, if not specifically ruled on elsewhere.

If he puts a disclaimer in the front that says they ought to consult their tax attoureny before following his advice that derails any "con-game" aspect.

A point I've already made. He doesn't do this, nor does he warn you of all the court cases that have ruled against him. He presents phony legal arguments as if he were giving you valid legal advice (this could be unauthorized practice of law as well, I'm surprised he hasn't been busted on this too).

90 posted on 06/22/2003 2:08:30 PM PDT by templar
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To: templar
Actually, if you read the (no fooling) 1-point Agit font material on the copyright page, Schiff DOES stick in a vague disclaimer that his methods may NOT work in "all" cases.

Phone books and classifieds are usually in 4-point Agit. Schiff's disclaimer looks like a screwup in the offset printer's shop unless you get a really powerful magnifier.
91 posted on 06/22/2003 2:11:32 PM PDT by Poohbah (I must be all here, because I'm not all there!)
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To: templar
imminent lawless action...depends on your perception of' imminent lawless action.
92 posted on 06/22/2003 2:13:35 PM PDT by RWG
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To: bvw
You have the perfect right to advocate illegal acts, ...

You do not. Show me any example in law of this and I will stand corrected. You have a right to talk about illegal acts (as we are doing here), but not to advocate doing them. Many people have found this out the hard way (like the once yearly or so idiot that advocates killing a president while he's drunk in a bar, or talks about sneaking bombs or guns into an airport). Don't believe me? Try it and find out. But absolutely not until you have consulted an attorney first, (this statement made as a disclaimer of advocacy).

93 posted on 06/22/2003 2:15:48 PM PDT by templar
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To: templar
So if he decided to just publish a book with his argument and not say "you don't have to pay income taxes," it would be allowed, but not if he includes that sentence?

No wonder our legal system is so messed up.
94 posted on 06/22/2003 2:15:51 PM PDT by rwfromkansas ("There is dust enough on some of your Bibles to write 'damnation' with your fingers." C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: templar
I did not say I was not going to pay taxes. But it hardly seems right that someone can burn a flag while another can not sell a book - all under the same amendment.
95 posted on 06/22/2003 2:16:13 PM PDT by BJungNan
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To: templar
Check out www.16thamendment.com, for more info on income taxes. It was never ratified.
96 posted on 06/22/2003 2:17:59 PM PDT by KG Peiper
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To: templar
BTW, there are plenty of underground websites with lots of "interesting" material. You can buy books on how to make bombs, complete with diagrams. They show this stuff on the evening news occassionally. But, the books keep being sold.
97 posted on 06/22/2003 2:18:14 PM PDT by rwfromkansas ("There is dust enough on some of your Bibles to write 'damnation' with your fingers." C.H. Spurgeon)
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To: RWG
...depends on your perception of' imminent lawless action.

Actualy, the courts perception. Mine or yours is of no legal value. The number of people following his advice seems to concur with "imminent lawless action" as a result of his advocacy.

98 posted on 06/22/2003 2:18:42 PM PDT by templar
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To: KG Peiper
Check out www.16thamendment.com, for more info on income taxes. It was never ratified.

First, that argument doesn't eliminate the income tax, it merely outlaws taxing rental income.

Second, the argument is worthless in court because it is a LONG-settled point of jurisprudence that the question of a constitutional amendment being ratified or not is a political question (not a LEGAL question) between Congress and the legislatures of the several states.

99 posted on 06/22/2003 2:20:45 PM PDT by Poohbah (I must be all here, because I'm not all there!)
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To: templar
So what is exactly your argument then? You're willing to argue in favour of "legal" even if it's the wrong thing? I read the article. You were the one that brought up the fact that he was "selling" something. And you didn't respond to all my examples. This man has a right to his opinions and he certainly has a right to publish a book. Any history book of the US could be viewed as a manual on how to overthrow a rightful gov't.

You would be right to advocate such.

That's more important than legality. The point is- Any freedom loving individual would not care about the legality of this but the rightness of it. He has a right to write his thoughts down in a book and distribute it. I would fight over that as my ancestors did. I would not argue against people advocating the man's rightness to publish his book and in favour of the State's "legal" mandate to suppress it. That's what you're doing. People are here arguing in favour of rightness and you're taunting them with legality.

You can take your "it's illegal period" and shove it. Hitler outlawed the Jews. If our laws are immoral, one is immoral for abiding by them. That legality argument can lead one right down the road to happily accepting the yoke of oppression. When it gets to the point where the State has to force people to couch what they mean in code or disguise in order to say it- it's time for that State to be brought down- Legal or not doesn't enter the equation.

100 posted on 06/22/2003 2:23:03 PM PDT by Prodigal Son
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