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CA: Many hats may enter recall ring
Sac Bee ^ | 6/22/03 | Margaret Talev

Posted on 06/22/2003 9:23:08 AM PDT by NormsRevenge

Edited on 04/12/2004 5:51:38 PM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

The state attorney general calls efforts to recall Gov. Gray Davis "a profound threat to democracy." The lieutenant governor calls it an "expensive perversion" of the recall process. The state treasurer describes it as an "odious use" of the system.


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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Extended News; Government; Politics/Elections; US: California
KEYWORDS: calgov2002; manyhats; mayenter; recall; ring
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If enough signatures are gathered to hold a recall election, Gov. Gray Davis' best chance of retaining his job might be a ballot that offers only Republican alternatives. But a turnout skewed heavily to Republicans could cost Democrats the governorship.

Sacramento Bee file, 2003/Dick Schmidt

1 posted on 06/22/2003 9:23:09 AM PDT by NormsRevenge
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These six say they won't be on ballot

Margaret Talev - Sac Bee

Six Democratic statewide officeholders have condemned the recall effort and have said they do not intend to run if it qualifies. But most Republicans and some Democrats are skeptical their pledges will hold if the recall reaches the ballot. The officeholders are:

Phil Angelides

The 50-year-old state treasurer, former land developer and one-time chairman of the state Democratic Party has for months sought to distinguish himself as the most progressive of three Democratic constitutional officers planning to run for governor in 2006. He led a push to stop state investment in tobacco companies and corporations that move offshore to save on taxes. He's called for higher taxes, to be spent mostly on schools.

Cruz Bustamante

The 50-year-old lieutenant governor was Democrats' early favorite to replace Davis in a nonpartisan poll that did not include Sen. Dianne Feinstein. Lieutenant governors have few powers and thus little on which to build campaign platforms or war chests. But in a plurality race, Bustamante might enjoy an edge in a state that is about one-third Latino.

Dianne Feinstein

The 70-year-old Democratic U.S. senator and former mayor of San Francisco is the most popular politician in California, and many GOP and Democratic analysts consider her the candidate to beat because of her appeal to women and moderates from both parties. Feinstein is ultra-sensitive about recalls, however; during her mayoralty in 1983, she survived a recall election triggered by a gun rights group lashing out after she supported handgun controls. On Saturday, Feinstein ruled out running, saying Davis was re-elected as governor "just six months ago," and should not have to mount a new campaign just to keep his job.

John Garamendi

The 58-year-old politician is in his second stint as state insurance commissioner, having been the first to hold the state post of elected commissioner in 1991. This time around, he is advocating reform of the workers' compensation insurance system, saying it now costs businesses too much without helping injured workers enough. Garamendi has always coveted the top job, having run unsuccessfully in 1994 and 1982.

Bill Lockyer

The 62-year-old state attorney general is planning to run for governor in 2006, a campaign that could feature his investigations of energy companies, support of law enforcement and cases on behalf of consumers. A longtime legislator and former Senate leader, Lockyer is well-connected with trial lawyers and Indian tribes.

Steve Westly

The 45-year-old state controller was narrowly elected in November. Ambition and personal wealth from a successful ride of the dot-com bubble make Westly a likely candidate for governor one day. But he was the first of the statewide constitutional officers to rule out running in a recall election.
2 posted on 06/22/2003 9:25:14 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi..Support FRee Republic... http://www.drafttom.com ... Tom McClintock for Gub in the Recall)
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Dan Walters weighs in...

Recall is no conspiracy -- GOP prefers internal combat

State Treasurer Phil Angelides stopped just short the other day of using the infamous phrase "vast right-wing conspiracy" to describe the recall campaign being waged against Gov. Gray Davis.

Angelides, however, told the Sacramento Press Club that he believes Republicans are holding up passage of the state budget as part of an orchestrated scheme to prolong the budget crisis and therefore drive down Davis' already abysmal public approval ratings. He described it as "a concerted effort ... to link the policy debate on the budget to the politics of the recall."

Other Democratic Party figures go further.

The state party's political director, Bob Mulholland, is telling everyone that Karl Rove, President Bush's chief political tactician, is pulling the strings for the recall, including the holdup of the budget.

Davis' record-low popularity, they are saying, is the product of circumstances beyond his control. Republicans, the party line continues, are trying to capitalize on Davis' unfortunate circumstances by driving him from office with a misuse of the recall process and replacing him with a right-wing Republican. The comments indicate that as the dump-Davis petition drive continues to gather steam, with a recall election now probable, Democrats appear to have settled on an overall defensive theme -- a sort of Clinton-impeachment-redux approach depicting it as an illegitimate coup d'etat.

The Davis-as-victim propaganda is designed, it would appear, to generate some sympathetic support among Democrats who might otherwise be tempted to sign recall petitions and/or vote for a recall.

Another element of the defense strategy, apparently, is to force those Democratic voters to see the choice as only between Davis and a GOP alternative. At the urging of state labor union leaders who are organizing the Davis recall defense, Angelides and other major Democratic figures are now insisting they will not offer themselves as alternatives should the recall make the ballot. U.S. Sen. Dianne Feinstein said Saturday she's not a candidate, either. It's not certain, however, their unity on that point will hold.

Back to the right-wing conspiracy theory. Angelides et al. are giving California Republicans much more credit for strategic vision and organizational efficacy than they deserve. Not only are they inherently incapable of such concerted action against Democrats, since they spend most of their energy trying to shaft each other, but in fact they are squabbling among themselves over whether the recall is a smart political move and are probably incapable of settling on a single GOP alternative to Davis.

Rove and the White House are clearly cool to the recall notion, as are some of the state's senior Republicans -- albeit privately. As they see it, a recall election could have multiple potential outcomes, some of which would hurt the GOP, to wit:

* Davis could win a recall and get a new lease on political life.

* He could be recalled, but be replaced by a more popular Democrat (Feinstein is especially feared) who could then go on to win a new term in 2006.

* Davis could lose a recall election and be succeeded by a weak Republican, who would inherit all of the state's fiscal and economic problems, face an implacably hostile, Democrat-controlled Legislature and be a losing candidate for re-election in 2006.

The best outcome for Republicans would be to have Davis gone and a strong GOP successor also elected, one who could retain the office in 2006. But even that would not be an unmixed blessing because that GOP governor could not, under the term limit law, run again in 2010. And it's the governor elected in 2010 who will control redistricting after the 2010 census.

That's why Republicans who are leery of the recall believe that their party's interests are best served by leaving an unpopular Davis in place, poisoning the political well for Democrats and leading to Republican gubernatorial victories in 2006 and 2010. Their party would then control redistricting, enhancing chances of picking up legislative and congressional seats.

If nothing else, the recall crusade has spawned countless scenarios.

3 posted on 06/22/2003 9:27:01 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi..Support FRee Republic... http://www.drafttom.com ... Tom McClintock for Gub in the Recall)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach; kellynla
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4 posted on 06/22/2003 9:28:02 AM PDT by NormsRevenge (Semper Fi..Support FRee Republic... http://www.drafttom.com ... Tom McClintock for Gub in the Recall)
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To: NormsRevenge
These "popular" RATS that say they won't run are having a serious "cut off your nose to spite your face" attack. They are not running because they oppose the recall effort. Stupid morons.
5 posted on 06/22/2003 9:29:10 AM PDT by upchuck (Contribute to "Republicans for Al Sharpton for President in 2004." Dial 1-800-SLAPTHADONKEY :)
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To: NormsRevenge
"And not everyone at the Capitol is convinced the Democrats who bowed out this week would resist the temptation to run."

That's what I think, too. As the recall qualifies for the ballot, Democrats will end up running -- question is who and how many.

6 posted on 06/22/2003 9:31:59 AM PDT by FairOpinion
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To: NormsRevenge
"Back to the right-wing conspiracy theory. Angelides et al. are giving California Republicans much more credit for strategic vision and organizational efficacy than they deserve. Not only are they inherently incapable of such concerted action against Democrats, since they spend most of their energy trying to shaft each other, but in fact they are squabbling among themselves over whether the recall is a smart political move and are probably incapable of settling on a single GOP alternative to Davis.

Unfortunately he is right. Republicans are setting themselves up for the scenario which would hurt Republicans the most. Some just like to cut off their nose to spite their face.

" He could be recalled, but be replaced by a more popular Democrat (Feinstein is especially feared) who could then go on to win a new term in 2006."

7 posted on 06/22/2003 9:37:56 AM PDT by FairOpinion
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Thanks! Did you see comments on a couple of threads by southack regarding either Clinton or Gore moving in on this? I don't like that at all! Cascading ping coming up!

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8 posted on 06/22/2003 10:01:26 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Recall Gray Davis and then start on the other Democrats)
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To: FairOpinion
"Unfortunately he is right. Republicans are setting themselves up for the scenario which would hurt Republicans the most. Some just like to cut off their nose to spite their face."

Yes, that's why we need to tell the RINOs to shut the hell up and get behind Tom McClintock.

9 posted on 06/22/2003 10:02:13 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~Remember, it's not sporting to fire at RINO until charging~)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
get behind Tom McClintock.

That would be great! I'm sure he could get lots of bipartisan support (votes) by real taxpayers.

I'm glad the Sac Bee has printed this profile of the potential candidates. Even though it's short, it's better than other local papers (such as the LA Times) that are busy creating multi-page descriptions of Presidential candidates while ignoring the upcoming recall.

10 posted on 06/22/2003 10:41:03 AM PDT by heleny
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To: NormsRevenge
Sorry, but I'm not sure that any GOPer can do anything fiscally with the pile of crap that the current economic cycle in concert with Davis has created. The lone saving grace of a GOP governorship would be to reverse the social agenda that Davis has set in motion.
11 posted on 06/22/2003 10:42:36 AM PDT by Rockitz (After all these years, it's still rocket science.)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Write in Condi Rice.


          (Pass it on.)

12 posted on 06/22/2003 10:49:02 AM PDT by Sabertooth
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
You did notice that the press once again spiked *any* mention of Al Gore or Bill Clinton getting on the ballot, or even that California law can be interpreted to require only 59 days residency in the state to qualify for the recall election.

Also worth noticing is that the major Democratic Party mouthpieces such as Donna Brazille, Terry McAulliffe, and James Carville have all remained completely silent about the recall. None of them are bashing the recall, as one would normally expect.

Sorta makes ya wonder why...

13 posted on 06/22/2003 10:53:29 AM PDT by Southack (Media bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Southack

Draft Tom McClintock for Governor! www.drafttom.com


14 posted on 06/22/2003 11:04:11 AM PDT by califgop
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To: califgop
Why have a race that you can't win?

How can McClintock beat Bill Clinton in California?

Turn in those recall signatures and you've just elected Clinton.

15 posted on 06/22/2003 11:06:07 AM PDT by Southack (Media bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: Southack
What is this Clinton nonsense ? He can't possibly be interested in wading into that mess in the least. There simply isn't anything in it for him.
16 posted on 06/22/2003 11:09:23 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~Remember, it's not sporting to fire at RINO until charging~)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
You mean he wouldn't want to live near Hollywood starlets, schmooze daily with celebrities who want favors from him as governor, and that he wouldn't want to be seen as leading a national Democratic revival in 2004 due to his landslide win in California in 2003?

Well, OK, that's good enough for me (/sarcasm)...

17 posted on 06/22/2003 11:13:59 AM PDT by Southack (Media bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: fieldmarshaldj; Southack
Southack has some interesting ideas about that possibility!
18 posted on 06/22/2003 11:14:05 AM PDT by Ernest_at_the_Beach (Recall Gray Davis and then start on the other Democrats)
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To: Ernest_at_the_Beach
Hasn't *anyone* noticed that Clinton is still searching for a legacy for himself?

Well, if he becomes the first man to ever win a governorship after being President, combined with being governor of two different states, combined with leading a Democratic Party revival in 2004 due to his landslide win in 2003, well maybe, just maybe, he's got himself a legacy (in his eyes).

Besides, what else is he going to do, make the talk show and lecture circuit for so many years that he turns his schtick into yet another joke?!

19 posted on 06/22/2003 11:18:07 AM PDT by Southack (Media bias means that Castro won't be punished for Cuban war crimes against Black Angolans in Africa)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
All Republicans did vote for Simon and guess what, he lost.

So let's all Republicans vote for McClintock, and all independents and moderates will vote for Feinstein, and guess what, the Republicans will lose again.

I guess some Republicans just can't get it through their head, that for a Republican to be elected, there have to be some independents and even Democrats voting for that person, and of course conservative Republicans can't garner those votes, which was demonstrated recently with the Davis win against Simon. Almost anyone could have beaten Davis, except a conservative Republican, so what did the Republicans do, nominate a conservative Republican. Some Republicans have a self-destructive urge, problem is they are destroying the CA Republican party, assuring that we will have fewer and fewer Republicans in any official positions in CA. Great strategy! ... for the Democrats.

20 posted on 06/22/2003 11:22:12 AM PDT by FairOpinion
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