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American high-tech workers see threat
The Atlanta Journal-Constitution ^ | June 22, 2003 | JULIA MALONE

Posted on 06/22/2003 12:48:06 AM PDT by sarcasm

WASHINGTON -- Already short on jobs, some American high-tech workers are mobilizing against a growing threat that they will be replaced by foreign workers arriving on a once-obscure visa.

Across the country, U.S. workers who once protested that H-1b visa holders were displacing them are now focusing on the growing use of the less-restrictive L-1 visa to bring bargain-priced foreign labor to major corporations.

Even in the sinking U.S. job market after the high-tech bubble went bust, the number of L-1 visas has risen and is now estimated at 325,000 temporary workers, who are allowed to stay between five and seven years.

The most controversial of those visas go to a handful of consulting firms based in India, where high-tech workers are plentiful, English is spoken and salary expectations are low. Once transferred here, these L-1 employees are contracted out to run computer operations for dozens of major companies.

Many multinational companies argue that they depend on the L-1 to bring new technologies and new operations to the United States. Among those who have "outsourcing" contracts are Hewlett-Packard, Sun Microsystems and Siemens Industries, in addition to state operations in New Mexico, Pennsylvania and New Jersey.

As the Indian companies expand to new clients, they are leaving a trail of layoffs and increasingly vocal U.S. workers.

Software engineer Judy Shaw learned late last month that her entire unit of more than 30 workers at Cutler-Hammer, a Pittsburgh division of Cleveland-based Eaton Corp., was to be terminated by year's end.

The company announced that Tata Consultancy Services, one of the largest of the Indian companies operating here, would be taking over her team's projects. A senior company executive announced the contract, adding that it would save $1 million a year, Shaw said.

Gary Klasen, a spokesman for Eaton, said last week that hiring Tata was based on more than money. "I'm not speaking about cheaper labor," he said. "I'm speaking about an overall goal to remain competitive in quality, cost and technology."

Klasen said that Eaton was rehiring some of the high-tech workers for other posts "if their skills and capabilities match the jobs that are available."

Shaw was not among the few who qualified. And experiencing her second layoff in as many years has spurred her into activism.

"I am newly naturalized" as an American citizen, said Shaw, who was born in the Philippines and who now telecommutes from her home in Justin, Texas. "Now that I have a voice, I'm going to speak up."

She is among a growing number of high-tech workers who are telling their stories on Internet sites, knocking on congressional doors, organizing groups and planning demonstrations.

Glenn R. Jackson, a laid-off tech worker from Dawson, Ga., last week launched the Internet-based National Association for the Employment of Americans, with partners on both coasts, to build a grass-roots campaign against work visa programs.

"A lot of people are individually impacted but not organized enough to put pressure on the powers that be," said Jackson, who spent 20 years in information technology before being laid off more a year and a half ago by the Siemens Energy and Automation facility in Alpharetta.

Since then, Jackson has been contacting fellow tech workers, chiefly via the Internet, helping to circulate petitions and sending information to legislators.

Message received

The message is beginning to be heard in the nation's capital.

Prompted by workers laid off by a Siemens facility at Lake Mary in his Florida district, Rep. John Mica concluded that the expanded use of the L-1 "was a gray area of law," his spokesman Gary Burns said. Mica, a Republican, became the first lawmaker to introduce legislation aimed at curbing the L-1.

Rep. Rosa L. DeLaro, a Democrat whose state of Connecticut has been a target for foreign outsourcers, followed last week by announcing that she will offer a bill, as well.

Also last week, Sen. Saxby Chambliss (R-Ga.), chairman of the Senate Judiciary Subcommittee on Immigration, announced he would hold a hearing this summer "so that we can better understand both the many concerns about misuse of the L-1 visa as well as the legitimate, important role the L-1 visa can play in promoting American businesses in our global economy."

Although Chambliss stopped short of saying the law should be rewritten, a fellow Georgia Republican, Rep. Nathan Deal, said Congress should close "a big loophole" in the L-1 program.

The Homeland Security Department, which oversees work visas, has ordered a probe into whether bringing in high-tech workers to provide basic services for other corporations is an abuse of the L-1 program -- originally designed to allow international companies to bring their top managers and a few company experts to assist their U.S. divisions.

"My understanding of L-1 is that no, that is not a legitimate use" if the workers are outsourced to another company, said Christopher Bentley, a spokesman for the department's Bureau of Citizenship and Immigration Services.

Further, Bentley said, the L-1 visa holder must be an intracompany transfer of a worker with "special knowledge" of the company's products, management or procedures. "We're not talking about people who are just Microsoft Windows experts," he said.

For employers, the L-1 has growing appeal because it is far less regulated than the H-1b worker visa, which requires certification that American workers will not be displaced as well as pay that matches the prevailing wage. Moreover, the number of H-1b visas per year is capped. Starting next October, the limit for H-1bs will go down from 195,000 to 65,000 annually.

L-1 visas have none of those restrictions and no cap.

Girish Surendran, resident manager of immigration and human resources for Tata, or TCS as the company's American division is called, defended his company's use of the L-1.

"It's a misconception is that TCS contracts employees to other companies or to third parties," he said. "When we go to a total outsourcing contract with any company ... the company has selected us to do the job because of the expertise that TCS carries with us."

Clinton a backer

Tata, which has more than 50 offices in the United States, also has a key supporter in Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton (D-N.Y.), who claimed credit for encouraging the company to open an office in Buffalo. Asked about the company's practice of replacing U.S. workers, Clinton's office provided statements from the company promising to provide jobs in the Buffalo region.

Although the Tata executive declined to say how many L-1 visa holders are on its payroll, two other Indian outsourcing companies report increasing use of the visa in filings to the Securities and Exchange Commission. Infosys Technologies Ltd. said it had 1,760 L-1 visa holders, up from 425 in March 1999. Wipro Ltd. said it has 1,150 workers with L-1s now, compared with 321 two years ago.

The tech contractors appeared to have little support from Daryl Buffenstein, an Atlanta immigration lawyer who is also general counsel for the American Immigration Lawyers Association.

"No one should defend the use of the L-1 visa as a job shop," he said. "If that's being done, then that is hurting everybody."

However, Buffenstein also said immigration lawyers were "working very, very hard to make sure that whatever happens" to the L-1 visa, "it doesn't throw the baby out with the bath water."

Buffenstein says foreign companies in Georgia, for example, have brought an estimated $19 billion in manufacturing and facilities investments that have transformed Atlanta into an international city.

"The story of the L-1 in Georgia is one of investment, one of jobs, one of employment, one of money," he said. "It's a story of how this state has built itself into a haven for international companies."

These companies have brought in only a "tiny percentage" of foreign workers, while hiring thousands of Georgians, he said.


TOPICS: Business/Economy; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: h1bl1; it; outsourcing; visas
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1 posted on 06/22/2003 12:48:06 AM PDT by sarcasm
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To: Willie Green; A. Pole
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2 posted on 06/22/2003 3:12:07 AM PDT by raybbr
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To: sarcasm
Even more of a threat is the movement to offshore programming powerhouses like WiPro from India.

Just as manufacturing moved to Mexico and Asia, so too are expensive intellectual services. WiPro has captured a great many large contracts in the US (like New Mexico state government) due to its expertise and significant ability to undercut prices charged by American companies.

India for one offers English speaking, highly educated technical employees, much cheaper salaries, fewer benefits and little, if any retirement costs.
3 posted on 06/22/2003 3:45:30 AM PDT by txzman (Jer 23:29)
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To: sarcasm
The $64,000 question: Should the INS be the largest government agency? I believe the answer is, quite possibly yes. Some of the largest challenges this country faces are directly related to the jurisdiction of the INS. If they are unable to enforce the laws and regulations, they are worthless.
4 posted on 06/22/2003 4:46:04 AM PDT by Mr. Bird
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To: Mr. Bird
The $64,000 question: Should the INS be the largest government agency? I believe the answer is, quite possibly yes. Some of the largest challenges this country faces are directly related to the jurisdiction of the INS

A hypothetical question to the free market believers: would it be good if INS were outsourced to India?

5 posted on 06/22/2003 4:58:29 AM PDT by A. Pole
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To: sarcasm
If these L-1 companies are "abusing" the visa (a euphemism clearly meaning that the visa is being put to illegal use), then someone ought to file a lawsuit.
6 posted on 06/22/2003 5:21:13 AM PDT by angkor
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To: sarcasm
It is a scary time when corporations transcend nationality. Labor, skilled and otherwise, is always going to come more cheaply in nations with a lower standard of living. One question that comes to my mind is what kind of jobs will there be for educated and skilled Americans to replace the educated and skilled jobs going overseas? Does anyone have an honest answer?

Second, if salaries are going overseas, does this mean that these companies no longer care about building up the economies of the communities they locate in, ie the American cities they locate in, or are they no longer in any sense American?

Third, if they pay out salaries overseas, does that mean that they expect their principal consumers to come from overseas, or do they expect other industries to continue to pay decent salaries in the US and maintain a middle class to purchase their products?

Fourth, Who is the "competition" these industries cite as necessitating the outsourcing of jobs? Is it national or international? In either case, aren't there other remedies than outsourcing jobs (ie tarrifs, labor regulations)?

Fifth, if the companies aren't interested in maintaining a strong US consumer middle class, what interest ought the US have in maintaining them? Maybe they belong in France or in some banana republic where they can have glamorous corporate headquarter and exec mansions and look down on the former banana pickers whom they can enlist to work in their factories for next to nothing. The execs who make decisions like outsourcing would surely enjoy the view, but they oughtn't expect the US market to be as receptive to their products as it once was, though stock purchasers might enjoy the short-term bump in share price before the market erodes and the execs all bail out with their golden parachutes.
7 posted on 06/22/2003 5:45:49 AM PDT by Puddleglum
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To: angkor
So, convince some lawyer that there is money to be made in a class action lawsuit. Sorta "start the ball rolling".
8 posted on 06/22/2003 6:02:37 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: Puddleglum
One question that comes to my mind is what kind of jobs will there be for educated and skilled Americans to replace the educated and skilled jobs going overseas? Does anyone have an honest answer?

Fewer jobs will be available. If labor is treated as a commodity and trade is free (no tariffs) the comparative advantage principle will lead to the replacement of American educated workers by Indians, Chinese working from their home countries.

Education is much cheaper in Third World countries. Cost of living is also cheaper. For the individual worker in Europe it is also cheaper to get education since it it is heavily subsidised and often free.

The question is what jobs will supported? Maybe the local service jobs which cannot be exported - like plumbers for example, security guards? Another problem is the contraction of demand in America - and if the rising demand in Third World countries will secure the market for the industry?

9 posted on 06/22/2003 6:06:50 AM PDT by A. Pole
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To: sarcasm
As far as I can tell, L-1's are already entering the second phase. Companies are deciding they don't need to bring Indian tech workers over here, when they can simply send the job itself offshore.

My company is sending a whole bunch of L-1's back to India, and their jobs along with them. They're also laying off a bunch of U. S. workers and sending those jobs to India as well.

Mind you, I think this trend is going to blow up in a lot of companies faces. They're losing a LOT of intellectual capital, and adding a lot of administrative/communication overhead where they've never had it before. That doesn't show up on their balance sheets, but it will show up in their productivity and quality.

10 posted on 06/22/2003 6:23:40 AM PDT by Snuffington
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To: willstayfree
It's time for Americans to begin focusing on that good old entrepeneurial spirit once again. Think about starting your own small bussiness.

Doing what? What about shrinking demand for products and services?

12 posted on 06/22/2003 6:32:23 AM PDT by A. Pole
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To: harpseal
Looks like we are not the only ones mobilizing.
13 posted on 06/22/2003 6:36:20 AM PDT by Lazamataz (PROUDLY POSTING WITHOUT READING THE ARTICLE SINCE 1999!)
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To: sarcasm
I'm thinking American IT workers will unionize soon. I should look into that field.
14 posted on 06/22/2003 6:37:17 AM PDT by Lazamataz (PROUDLY POSTING WITHOUT READING THE ARTICLE SINCE 1999!)
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To: Lazamataz
Maybe if more mobilize we can get something done. I note Tata Consulting is a proud contributor to Hillary Clinton. The fact that Rosa DeLauro is vocalizing support for curbing the L1's is strange she is obviously going off the reservation where most Democrats are and remember her husband is Carville's partner. Either the Republicans start getting on board to enforce the immigration law or the Democrats will pound them with this issue.
16 posted on 06/22/2003 6:44:44 AM PDT by harpseal (Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown)
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To: Lazamataz
Lazamataz - union organizer?
17 posted on 06/22/2003 6:45:33 AM PDT by sarcasm (Tancredo 2004)
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To: A. Pole
Maybe the local service jobs which cannot be exported - like plumbers for example, security guards?

Don't you know that these are jobs that Americans won't do anymore?
at slave wages

18 posted on 06/22/2003 6:48:08 AM PDT by sarcasm (Tancredo 2004)
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Lazamataz - union organizer?

We'd be one of the few Republican-supporting unions.

19 posted on 06/22/2003 6:57:39 AM PDT by Lazamataz (PROUDLY POSTING WITHOUT READING THE ARTICLE SINCE 1999!)
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To: txzman
Just as manufacturing moved to Mexico and Asia, so too are expensive intellectual services...just like most blue collar workers were [hit hard by NAFTA] but now have to continue to ask "fries with that order?"

How many times in the past were these white collar types figuring the accounting benefits to move off shore?

20 posted on 06/22/2003 7:02:32 AM PDT by RWG
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