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Sci Fi Channel puts its corporate muscle behind effort to investigate UFOs
Miami Herald ^ | Fri, Jun. 20, 2003 | David Bauder

Posted on 06/21/2003 12:07:33 PM PDT by demlosers

NEW YORK - In an unusual step for a television network, the Sci Fi Channel is campaigning to persuade the government to be more forthcoming and aggressive in investigating UFO sightings.

Sci Fi has hired former Clinton chief of staff John Podesta as a Washington lobbyist, sponsored a symposium on interstellar travel and is considering a court effort to declassify documents related to a 1965 incident in Pennsylvania.

The network will premiere a documentary, "Out of the Blue," Tuesday at 9 p.m. (Eastern and Pacific time zones) that methodically lays out an argument that there's something out there.

Most TV networks are reluctant to spend money for anything other than self-interest. The few public interest efforts are hardly controversial: Lifetime promoting breast cancer research, for example, or MTV's Rock the Vote campaign to encourage young people to register.

But by fighting for UFO probes, Sci Fi is wading into an area that invites not only dissent, but also ridicule.

"It's very, very tough for people to take this subject seriously," said Ed Rothschild, a lobbyist in Podesta's firm. "We thought the only way it was going to be seriously addressed is to have serious people talk about it, scientists."

Rothschild won't even identify the members of Congress he's talked to about leaning on the government for more openness about UFOs. He's afraid they'll never help if their names come out and they're laughed at.

Even believers are reluctant to talk about the issue.

After hearing that former President Carter once saw a UFO, "Out of the Blue" filmmaker James Fox repeatedly, and unsuccessfully, asked Carter's representatives for an interview. Undaunted, Fox essentially ambushed Carter with a camera one day at a book-signing. Carter confirmed the incident but his brevity and forced smile indicated he wasn't happy to be answering.

Given the "giggle factor" that surrounds UFOs, Sci Fi is taking a chance with its reputation, Fox said.

"I don't think there's a risk because the questions need to be asked," said Thomas Vitale, Sci Fi's senior vice president of programming. "Even somebody who is the biggest skeptic in the world ... still wants the questions answered. And who better to do it?"

The mission isn't entirely altruistic, of course. The Sci Fi Channel, which is seen in about three-quarters of the nation's TV households, polled viewers on the topic. Evidence of keen interest is also seen in the ratings.

Last November's documentary on the celebrated, suspected 1947 UFO crash in Roswell, N.M., was the highest-rated special in the network's 11-year history. It was seen by nearly 2.4 million people, or about 2 1/2 times Sci Fi's usual prime-time audience.

"Our main goal is not to find a UFO," Vitale said. "The goal is finding the truth. We're expanding and exploring the blurry line between what is science fiction and what is science fact."

Vitale wouldn't say how much Sci Fi is spending on this. The network sponsored an archaeological excavation at Roswell, will debut a public service announcement Tuesday and has four new UFO specials in the works.

It is backing an effort to get U.S. Air Force records released on a 1965 incident in Kecksburg, Pa., where some witnesses believe a UFO crashed. This may end up in court, Rothschild said.

Fox, a San Francisco-based journalist, never thought much about UFOs until a visit nine years ago to Nevada, when he and his friends watched a saucer-shaped object hover silently in the sky then dart away.

"When I got home, I was met with laughter," he said. "No one believed me, even my family. I thought, if my own family doesn't believe me, who does?"

Intrigued, he began looking into other UFO incidents. He sold a 1998 documentary to the Discovery Channel and shopped "Out of the Blue" to the same network, but said he was told Discovery no longer buys pro-UFO films. (A Discovery spokeswoman denied this.)

So he went to Sci Fi. Fox considers 95 percent of reported UFO incidents bunk, either hoaxes or easily explained conventional phenomena. And don't count him among people who believe aliens already live among us.

But that still leaves a significant number of mysterious cases. "Out of the Blue" outlines several, concentrating on the most reputable of witnesses - former astronauts, military and government officials, topped off by an ex-president.

Fox's storytelling is sober, not sensational. Summing up incidents at the end of the film, Fox gives the official government explanations of what happened, and they're often more ridiculous than the sightings themselves.

"You get to a point where you can no longer dismiss each and every episode," he said.

Fox and Rothschild can think of several reasons why the government doesn't want to talk about UFOs:

_ The military doesn't want to spend time or money on something that isn't perceived as a threat.

_ Officials may also like the secrecy; it keeps other governments guessing about what kind of new weapon technologies might be in the works.

_ It could also be embarrassing, since it can expose what they don't know and the limitations of human technology.

_ And who wants to set off a "War of the Worlds"-type incident?

Fox envisions the public announcement that could come with such an event: "We don't know where they come from, we don't know what they're doing. We can't stop them if they become hostile and they can fly rings around all of our aircraft.

"Thank you, and good night."


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Miscellaneous
KEYWORDS: area51; buildthewall; extraterrestrials; johnpodesta; podkletnov; scifi; scifichannel; space; syfy; ufo; ufos
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To: demlosers
The military doesn't want to spend time or money on something that isn't perceived as a threat.

Good point. The Air Force's "Scientific Study of Unidentified Flying Objects" was obviously set up to deliver a predetermined conclusion, but I doubt it 'covered up' anything more sinister than a determination to get clear of what the AF saw as a nonsensical issue.

21 posted on 06/21/2003 2:19:45 PM PDT by Grut
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To: demlosers
I would have preferred if Sci-Fi had invested in keeping "Farscape," "MST3k," "Crusade" or even "Futurama" on the air rather than bothering with this conspiracy nonsense. Why should I watch a network whose most prominent features are the Stargate spinoff show and Z-grade UFO "documentaries?"
22 posted on 06/21/2003 2:25:55 PM PDT by Polonius
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To: demlosers
If something isn't exlained by current scientific knowledge it probably isn't true. Like ghosts, fairies and satanic possesion, many want to believe but the proof just isn't there.
23 posted on 06/21/2003 4:28:06 PM PDT by shrinkermd
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To: demlosers
The Stargate is real.Mciver can make anything.
24 posted on 06/21/2003 5:27:18 PM PDT by noutopia
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To: demlosers; Quix
As most of you know, the dummycraps base is the FAR LEFT, that’s where their hard-core voters are, having said that, I will remind all the FR skeptics, "Republicans have seen strange aerial phenomena too, not just Goober in Bogger Bottom or Pascagoula Mississippi.”

The network will premiere a documentary, "Out of the Blue," Tuesday at 9 p.m. (Eastern and Pacific time zones) that methodically lays out an argument that there's something out there.

25 posted on 06/24/2003 2:11:00 AM PDT by Las Vegas Dave
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To: demlosers; andysandmikesmom; areafiftyone; bigfootbob; Ecliptic; El Sordo; gcruse; Ghengis; ...
GREAT, THANKS.

OK, LET'S MOVE THE COMMENTS, LIVE THREAD DISCUSSION TO THIS THREAD??? WOULD THAT BE OK WITH YOU?

Much appreciate this post.
26 posted on 06/24/2003 4:02:35 AM PDT by Quix (FAIR MINDED & INTERESTED--please watch UFO special Tues eve & share opinions)
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To: demlosers
Sci Fi Channel puts its corporate muscle behind effort to investigate UFOs

Great move on their part. Now all they need to do is announce that they're changing their name to Spike.

27 posted on 06/24/2003 4:07:58 AM PDT by PBRSTREETGANG
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To: Riley
It is QUITE CONCEIVABLE that several power blocks in the legitimate as well as shadow governments

have TONS OF REASONS to obsfucate, spread train loads of disinformation etc.

ON TOP OF an already complex, confusing, convoluted--evidently deliberately so from the ET side, too--

'reality' --whatever that is.

SMALL WONDER the signal to noise ratio is so troublesome. And given our bureacracies--it would be surprising for it to be otherwise.

In any case, given my relatives and friends and their job roles and experiences--I lost the luxury of disbelief long ago.

Now what exactly is going on amidst all the noise is a very challenging-to-discern issue. But I enjoy collecting puzzle pieces and discussing them with fair minded folk.

I ALSO HAPPEN TO BELIEVE personally, that this set of phenomena will turn out to be far more threatening to our Constitutional Republic than even Dillbo and her hideous heinous Shrillery Hellery Antoinette de Fosterizer de Sade, Dashdork et all combined--and will probably turn out to be part of the same 'end time' 'Great Deception.' But that's just my current opinion and construction on various configurations of puzzle pieces. God and time will eventually make all things clear.
28 posted on 06/24/2003 4:15:36 AM PDT by Quix (FAIR MINDED & INTERESTED--please watch UFO special Tues eve & share opinions)
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To: libertylover
My thought as well.

Though, on the other hand, who better to check on the slippery foxes than a fox. Now how slippery he is, is another issue and puzzle piece.
29 posted on 06/24/2003 4:16:49 AM PDT by Quix (FAIR MINDED & INTERESTED--please watch UFO special Tues eve & share opinions)
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To: boris
Certainly

STRANGER AND STRANGER

do flit about tweaking, confronting and occasionally assaulting at least our senses from time to time.

Makes for some interesting corn fields, among other things.

Especially for some unfortunate/fortunate people . . . depending.
30 posted on 06/24/2003 4:19:24 AM PDT by Quix (FAIR MINDED & INTERESTED--please watch UFO special Tues eve & share opinions)
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To: lepton
2.X million is hopefully a lot more than buy the fiction of her hideous heinous Shrillery Hellery' fictions.
31 posted on 06/24/2003 4:20:42 AM PDT by Quix (FAIR MINDED & INTERESTED--please watch UFO special Tues eve & share opinions)
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To: lepton
I still think it's arrogant to assume that our constructions on reality are comprehensive, conclusive and final.

And that's

WITH

TAKING INTO ACCOUNT all the 'far out' discoveries in physics of the last 25, 50 or 100 years.

Assume that the next 100 years or 25 years would show similar startling or puzzling discoveries . . . the puzzles could multiply aplenty.

Science has shown that smug convictions and declarations about scientific discovery having reached 99.999% of the end of the road--are always at best exceedingly premature if not idiotically arrogant.
32 posted on 06/24/2003 4:23:48 AM PDT by Quix (FAIR MINDED & INTERESTED--please watch UFO special Tues eve & share opinions)
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To: gitmo
Why should SciFi waste all that money when they could just go see Cythnia McKinney. i mean she is a space case(Damn where is that cartoon?)
33 posted on 06/24/2003 4:33:55 AM PDT by Trueblackman (frinking rules)
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To: shrinkermd
"If something isn't exlained by current scientific knowledge it probably isn't true"

That's been said before, I think.

34 posted on 06/24/2003 4:55:35 AM PDT by Sam Cree (Democrats are herd animals)
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To: Las Vegas Dave
Reagan had some sort of incident, did he not?
35 posted on 06/24/2003 5:40:09 AM PDT by Sam Cree (Democrats are herd animals)
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To: shrinkermd
"If something isn't ex[p]lained by current scientific knowledge it probably isn't true."

My Ghod. Do you read Scientific American? It's been way dumbed-down but it still covers a lot of interesting things. For example, the issues of "dark matter", "dark energy" (not the same), "negative pressure", antigravity (caused by dark energy??), the curvature of the Universe, the beginning of the Universe. None of these things can be explained by current scientific knowledge. For example, ask your favorite physicist: "What is time?" "Time is what clocks measure," is the sort of non-answer you'll get. Read Julian Barbour's book The End of Time and explain it to us when you're through. (I've read it twice and still haven't a clue.) There is still no unified theory (unifying gravity with the other forces). String theory, brane theory, all the stepchildren of Kaluza-Klein...none are adequate. Tentative steps to some ultimate destination possibly.

Heck, there is a phenomenon you can create in your basement (with suitable investment) called "sonoluminescence" which is still the subject of debate...along with claims like Podkletnov's et al. The Japanese are still patenting "cold fusion" devices...

--Boris

36 posted on 06/24/2003 7:28:07 AM PDT by boris
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To: Paul C. Jesup
Cut Ben some slack, on Farscape he may look like he is in his mid-to-late 20's

I think he looks his age(late 30s early 40s), same with Claudia. Not that either of them are bad looking.

37 posted on 06/24/2003 8:24:07 AM PDT by Sci Fi Guy
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To: Quix
A 1 hour interview by Peter Davenport with the Booger Bottom people - real audio file. Warning: it's from the tinfoil site rense.com

The audio page: http://www.soundwaves2000.com/rense/archives/2003/may_index.asp

The interview took place on the 13th May 2003.

38 posted on 06/24/2003 4:20:29 PM PDT by demlosers
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To: demlosers
Any transcript available?

Thanks for the post.
39 posted on 06/24/2003 5:04:58 PM PDT by Quix (FAIR MINDED & INTERESTED--please watch UFO special Tues eve & share opinions)
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To: demlosers; andysandmikesmom; areafiftyone; bigfootbob; Ecliptic; El Sordo; gcruse; Ghengis; ...
ROSWELL CRASH: STARTLING NEW EVIDENCE is again on the SciFi channel.

Certainly some of the things they are saying about Montoya sound authentic. But he was known as a rather corrupt politician.

Not sure if I've seen this one before. Some new witnesses or at least some new statements from some witness who were identified but did not go on record heretofore.
40 posted on 06/24/2003 5:08:48 PM PDT by Quix (FAIR MINDED & INTERESTED--please watch UFO special Tues eve & share opinions)
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