Useful Lives: The American Medical Association Ethics

Catholic Way ^ | 06.20.03 | Dr. Pat Lappert, M.D.

[Coleus]

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[gcruse]

No thanks. I always thought there should be lots more of me.

[Canticle_of_Deborah]

If there are ethical physicians out there who still belong to the AMA now is the time to leave.

[VOA]

Rest assured that those who think they know everything about the creation and
"editing" of human life...
won't have any problem exercising their decisions about what is a "useful life" when
we're reaching the end of our lives...

[Alamo-Girl]

Thanks for the heads up!

[LiteKeeper]

INTREP

[hocndoc]

I resigned when the House of Delegates voted, with debate, to recommend that the FDA make "emergency contraception" over the counter. The AMA has never given up any other control over any medical procedure until that move.

I'm curious about the "without debate" part. I wonder whether the measure was somehow buried in the committee's recommendations. There's an elaborate system of exceptions of numbered portions of resolutions in order to bring them forward for debate.

[Coleus]

There's an elaborate system of exceptions of numbered portions of resolutions in order to bring them forward for debate.>>>

Sounds like what most politicians of either party does with certain bills in congress with pork-barrell spending, etc..., all those add ons,etc.

[RJCogburn]

Yes, a few more like gcruse around these parts would be a good idea.

I would encourage you to ask your doctor if they are a member of the AMA.

Well, fewer than half of docs belong to the AMA now. Nevertheless, on this subject I say, 'good job, AMA'

[John Beresford Tipton]

Let me see if I got this straight.
You are asking people to CLICK HERE on a petition by an organization named grassfire, about which not only do you know nothing, but you have expressed doubts:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/932823/posts?page=26#26

"thanks,...

I have reservations about them since I don't know who they are, why they do it, what is their mailing address and phone number and who is on their board. I've asked these "very simple" questions in about 30 e mails to them over the last 2 yrs. and have yet had one answered.

They must have some heck of a database on all us conservatives out there...Who knows maybe they are on the other side building information on us.

30 posted on 06/21/2003 6:21 PM EDT by Coleus"


It appears that you share their credibility.

[Coleus]

I will let them make their own decision, and "I" have doubts about the organization since they won't answere my e mails; obviously, many conservatives believe in the organization, probably you too, since many of their petitions contain hundreds of thousand of names. The main point to my post was the Catholic View of the AMA and I threw the grassfire stuff at the last minute.

It appears you are wrong.

So, since you are so observant, what have you to offer about the grassfire organization?

[Livfreeordi]

Quit the AMA?

Too late ...Coleus.

I'm a doctor in new york, a radiologist, who quit the AMA in disgust more than a year ago..

...when the then President of the AMA started making noises that I saw as hostile to my Second Amendment rights under the Constitution.

They keep on asking me to rejoin..and I keep on telling them that hell will freeze over before I rejoin an organization that attacks my civil rights.

[John Beresford Tipton]

"what have you to offer about the grassfire organization?"

Not a damn thing because I'm not pushing their poll.

[MHGinTN]

To be sure, the current arguments cite the embryonic clones being allowed to live for only approximately fourteen days, to allow sufficient stem cell division for differentiation, killing, and harvesting, but not to reach the fetal stage through implantation. Science will eventually figure out how to produce an artificial womb, and then these ‘non-human individuals’ will be raised into the fetal stages before killing and harvesting, you can be sure of that because tissues and organs of these cloned individuals will be more desirably differentiated.

Both types of somatic cell nuclear transfer cloning reproduce the donor; the chosen destiny for the newly conceived clone defines the procedure … a short lifetime for a harvesting target (so called therapeutic cloning), or a long lifetime as an individual identical twin (so called reproductive cloning).

Why is it important to realize that an embryo is a human being at an early age along a continuum of individual life? Because therapeutic cloning coupled with embryonic stem cell harvesting aim to cannibalize individual human life. Defenders of therapeutic cloning are seeking to characterize that ‘type’ of human cloning as non-reproductive, but the truth is, ALL somatic cell nuclear transfer cloning is reproductive, conceiving an individual human life. Defenders and promoters of therapeutic cloning deny that the embryonic individual life is a human being at that age of a lifetime begun at conception.

Tha AMA clearly support killing the newly conceived individual human being before further ages can be reached along the continuum of life begun at a designer, cloning, conception ... because of their utilitarian value regardless of their humanity.

The science of Embryology holds as fundamental truth that even an embryo no bigger than a grain of sugar is an individual human life. Is it acceptable to kill that individual for body parts? If it is, that's cannibalism as surely as eating body parts or whole embryos for medical cures. The AMA is squarely endorsing cannibalism, the cannibalizing of individual human embryos conceived specifically for their body parts, their stem cells.

[Coleus]

Great good for you. I have to send a letter to my doctor who is a good republican and try to convince him to quit. I know of a lot of doctors who like to target shooting. Many use an outdoor range in northern NJ.

[Coleus]

Good, just what I thought.

[Coleus]

Are there any real benefits for belonging to the AMA? It seems many just join after med. school because the organization has name recognition. Have you tried to get your peers to resign?

[Coleus]

Science will eventually figure out how to produce an artificial womb>>>

Now that is scary.

[MHGinTN]

They're close already, Coleus!