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Weblog: Is Eric Rudolph a Christian Terrorist?
ChristainityToday.Com ^ | 6/03/03 | Ted Olsen

Posted on 06/21/2003 8:46:13 AM PDT by Dane

Weblog: Is Eric Rudolph a Christian Terrorist?

Compiled by Ted Olsen | posted 06/03/2003

Was alleged Olympics bomber motivated by religion? Is Eric Rudolph a Christian terrorist? The Washington Post asks the question in yesterday's edition. "The question is not just whether Rudolph is a terrorist, or whether he considers himself a Christian," writes Alan Cooperman. "It is whether he planted bombs at the 1996 Olympic Games in Atlanta, two abortion clinics, and a gay nightclub to advance a religious ideology—and how numerous, organized and violent others who share that ideology may be."

Syracuse University political science professor Michael Barkun, who has consulted the FBI on "Christian extremist groups," is willing to use the phrase. "Based on what we know of Rudolph so far, and admittedly it's fragmentary, there seems to be a fairly high likelihood that he can legitimately be called a Christian terrorist," he said.

But Idaho State University sociologist James A. Aho disagrees. "I would prefer to say that Rudolph is a religiously inspired terrorist, because most mainstream Christians consider Christian Identity to be a heresy," he said. The phrase "Christian terrorist," Aho says, is "sort of an oxymoron." But maybe now that the phrase is being used, says Aho, Christians will be more hesitant to use the phrase "Islamic terrorism."

Similarly, The New York Times called Rudolph a "Christian ideologue" (at least reporter Jeffrey Gettleman did initially—the phrase seems to have been dropped from the online version).

But there is compelling evidence that Rudolph actually wasn't motivated by religion—perverse, heretical, or otherwise.

Charles Stone, a retired Georgia Bureau of Investigation agent who supervised the bombing task force, says that Rudolph was really upset that the Food and Drug Administration didn't approve a drug he thought would help his father's cancer.

"The anti-abortion, anti-gay thing was a smokescreen," Stone told the Associated Press.

While Christian groups say that the "evil and wicked religion" that Rudolph was associated with—the Church of Israel—isn't one of ours, the Church of Israel says Rudolph isn't one of their own, either.

"We very clearly and emphatically teach that all Christians have a duty and an obligation to respect all law enforcement authorities. If Eric Rudolph had listened to his lessons here, he would have learned that acts of violence were absolutely and completely out of order and something this church would never have condoned," Dan Gayman said.

Syracuse's Barkun seems to give some credence to this, noting that the issues of abortion and homosexuality "are a rather subordinate theme" in Christian Identity—and that "anti-Olympic sentiment is not a motif in Christian Identity, and it still strikes me as an odd target."

In other words, even if Christian Identity was a kind of Christian version of Wahabbism (which it isn't), Rudolph wouldn't even have acted consistently with it.

"Assuming Eric Rudolph committed these crimes, he cannot find one word in the teachings of Christ to justify them," Gary Bauer wrote in response to the Post article. "Nor will he find any theological leader of any branch of Christianity willing to defend his criminal conduct. No Christian neighborhoods burst into celebration at the news of the bombings. Nor are Christian children being taught that if Rudolph had died in his attacks he would be a 'martyr' welcomed into heaven. The contrast with radical Islamic teachings couldn't be more stark."

But wait, says The New York Times—Rudolph does have supporters, especially in rural North Carolina.

"Rudolph's a Christian and I'm a Christian and he dedicated his life to fighting abortion," 25-year-old Crystal Davis of Murphy told The New York Times. "Those are our values. These are our woods. I don't see what he did as a terrorist act."

That is a truly despicable comment. However, some other evidence that such feelings are widespread deserve to be treated with skepticism. When the Peach Tree Restaurant in Peachtree, N.C., changed its marquee to read "Pray for Eric Rudolph," it may have very well been out of support for the terrorist. Or it may have simply been a truly Christian sentiment to "pray for your enemies."

The New York Times says the community is "fiercely loyal" to Rudolph, and that such support "might complicate the case. . . . There may be no shortage of suspects" who helped him.

The Associated Press says otherwise. "Folks around here resent the notion that there was an army of sympathizers in these mountains, ready and willing to sustain a notorious killer," writes Allen G. Breed. "It is a deeply religious area where anti-abortion sentiment runs deep. But [residents say] there's a big difference between opposing abortion and killing someone over it."

In any case, there may be a tighter connection to the murders than abortion or religion. Deborah Rudolph, Eric's sister-in-law, says he's a drug addict. According to the AP, she told the Southern Poverty Law Center's Intelligence Report that in the early 1990s, he would "sleep all day, then stay up all night and eat pizza and smoke pot and watch movies by Cheech and Chong." He reportedly made as much as $60,000 selling hydroponic marijuana. That much pot is enough to make anyone paranoid.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; US: Alabama; US: Georgia; US: North Carolina
KEYWORDS: christianidentity; ericrudolph
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1 posted on 06/21/2003 8:46:14 AM PDT by Dane
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2 posted on 06/21/2003 8:47:01 AM PDT by Dane
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To: Dane
Rudolph is not "Christian!" ("Christian" = "Christ-like believer and follower of Jesus Christ")

He is an adherentr of "Christian Identity" -- one of the most virulent and violent hate-filled gatherings of neo-Nazis in America... (Just do a search and go to one of their websites -- and follow 'most any link to an intra-site webpage)...

3 posted on 06/21/2003 8:56:11 AM PDT by TXnMA (No Longer!!!)
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To: Dane
Hey Dane, Howya been?

If he did the bombings, he's a terrorist. I suppose the same thing sould be said of "Muslim" terrorists although I do believe the Koran speaks of eliminating the opposition.

If he wants to think of himself as a Christian, he is fooling himself. JMO but a Christian will work within The Law to change things.

prisoer6

4 posted on 06/21/2003 8:57:16 AM PDT by prisoner6 ( Right Wing Nuts hold the country together as the loose screws of the left fall out!)
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To: TXnMA
Rudolph is not "Christian!" ("Christian" = "Christ-like believer and follower of Jesus Christ")

Nope, and you will find plenty of good Muslims to say Osama bin Laden is not a follower of Islam ("Islam" = "Peace").

The point is that Osama thinks of himself as a Musalim and Rudolph thinks of himself as a Christian, and that makes them A Muslim Terrorist and a Christian Terrorist.

SO9

5 posted on 06/21/2003 9:04:30 AM PDT by Servant of the Nine (A Goldwater Republican)
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To: Dane
Thanks for the ping. I personally think the Olympic bombing charges are BS. You?
6 posted on 06/21/2003 9:07:36 AM PDT by jmc813 (After two years of FReeping, I've finally created a profile page. Check it out!)
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To: jmc813
Thanks for the ping. I personally think the Olympic bombing charges are BS. You?

Can't comment about the Olympic bombing charges for lack of knowledge, other than Richard Jewell got the shaft big time by the media and Clinton/Reno/Freeh FBI.

Could you state why you think the charges against Rudolph about the Atlanta Olympic bombing are unwarranted.

7 posted on 06/21/2003 9:14:37 AM PDT by Dane
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To: Servant of the Nine
Nope, and you will find plenty of good Muslims to say Osama bin Laden is not a follower of Islam ("Islam" = "Peace").

I don't know about that. Of course, it would depend on the definition of both "plenty" and "good Muslims". I don't think I hear much from the Muslim community in general condemning Osama. They actually seem to be extraordinarily quiet about it compared to the condemnation of people like Rudolph by Christians.

8 posted on 06/21/2003 9:15:19 AM PDT by templar
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To: Servant of the Nine
The point is that Osama thinks of himself as a Musalim and Rudolph thinks of himself as a Christian, and that makes them A Muslim Terrorist and a Christian Terrorist.

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So, if Eric picks his nose, and he thinks of himself as suave and debonair, does that by your logic also make him a "suave and debonair nose-picker?"
9 posted on 06/21/2003 9:23:12 AM PDT by BenR2 ((John 3:16: Still True Today.))
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To: templar; Servant of the Nine
I don't know about that. Of course, it would depend on the definition of both "plenty" and "good Muslims". I don't think I hear much from the Muslim community in general condemning Osama. They actually seem to be extraordinarily quiet about it compared to the condemnation of people like Rudolph by Christians

I agree, but the liberal media will do and say anything to perpetuate their template that "fundementalist" Christians and "fundementalist" Muslims are made out of the same cloth, even when their(liberal media's) inconsistantcies are pointed out, such as 99% of Christians condemning rudolph's actions, while 90% of Muslim clergy are either silent or lukewarm in their condemnation of bin ladin.

The liberal media buzzword that the liberal media uses to thread both groups is "fundemental".

10 posted on 06/21/2003 9:25:32 AM PDT by Dane
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To: Dane
Why do you post this shite?
11 posted on 06/21/2003 9:32:11 AM PDT by wardaddy (I was born my Papa's son....when I hit the ground I was on the run.....)
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To: Servant of the Nine
Christian Identity is not Christian.
12 posted on 06/21/2003 9:34:31 AM PDT by MEG33
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To: Servant of the Nine; Dane
I followed my own advice and did a search on "Christian Identity". This website seemed to provide a balanced analysis.

If you check the links toward the bottom, you will find that, among those who consider themselves to be part of the CI Movement include Aryan Nation and the Ku Klux Klan (KKK).

13 posted on 06/21/2003 9:36:50 AM PDT by TXnMA (No Longer!!!)
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To: Dane
""It is whether he planted bombs at the 1996 Olympic Games in Atlanta, two abortion clinics, and a gay nightclub to advance a religious ideology"

I'd just love to know which Christian doctrine or Biblical verse would lead a Christian to blow up abortion clinics and nightclubs. Would it be Jesus' words: "But I say to you that hear, Love your enemies, do good to those who hate you"? Or would it be Jesus' instruction to "love they neighbor as thyself"? Maybe it's found in Jesus Christ's example of forgiving the Roman soldiers who were driving nails into his hands and feet? Is it the Fifth Commandment "Thou Shalt Not Kill"? Maybe we can find it hidden in Saint Paul's instruction to the Romans: "Bless those who persecute you"? Eric Rudolph is a Christian, and I'm Judge Roy Bean.

14 posted on 06/21/2003 9:43:15 AM PDT by TheCrusader
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To: wardaddy
Why do you post this shite?

Huh? Why do you call it "shite".

15 posted on 06/21/2003 9:43:52 AM PDT by Dane
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To: Dane
Could you state why you think the charges against Rudolph about the Atlanta Olympic bombing are unwarranted.

Just a hunch. It just seems WAY too convenient to me that they would tie this guy to a case which is knoiwn as one of the FBI's biggest blunders ever. I've come to distrust the FBI quite a bit in the last 10 years.

16 posted on 06/21/2003 9:45:50 AM PDT by jmc813 (After two years of FReeping, I've finally created a profile page. Check it out!)
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To: TXnMA
He is an adherentr of "Christian Identity" -- one of the most virulent and violent hate-filled gatherings of neo-Nazis in America... (Just do a search and go to one of their websites -- and follow 'most any link to an intra-site webpage)..

JMO, but that was the point the blog was trying to make, IMO.

17 posted on 06/21/2003 9:49:18 AM PDT by Dane
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To: jmc813
I've come to distrust the FBI quite a bit in the last 10 years.

I wholeheartedly agree! Especially under Clinton/Reno/Freeh -- and it doesn't seem to have gotten a whole lot better under Bush/Ashcroft/Mueller...

18 posted on 06/21/2003 9:56:35 AM PDT by TXnMA (No Longer!!!)
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To: Dane
True -- just supplying supporting documentation...
19 posted on 06/21/2003 9:58:22 AM PDT by TXnMA (No Longer!!!)
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To: Dane
Because nearly all of these articles are simply propaganda to smear Christianity.

I've got news for most of ya. The average Christian I know here in Nashville is a moderate to lefty on culture issues.

They are mostly Prods and are knee deep in "feel good" "no opinion about anything but folks who actually have opinions" style psuedo-Christians.

Right Wing Christian Extremism is largely a myth.
20 posted on 06/21/2003 10:00:47 AM PDT by wardaddy (I was born my Papa's son....when I hit the ground I was on the run.....)
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