[TomGuy]

I still think Hillary has to try for 2004.

Out of the pack of Dems, one might emerge next year who either defeats GWB or makes a great showing. That would quell Hillary in 2008. She can't take the chance that that might happen.

She might lose her Senate seat in 2006. That would end her power base. She can't take that chance.

Even if she tries in 2004, becomes the party nominee--either by primaries (doubtful) or draft (likely they'll beg her to save the party and the Nation)-- and loses 2004, that puts her at the head of the pack for 2008. (Remember, Al Gore had to "give" 2004 to the pack because he was considered the heir-apparent.)

[Kenton]

Oh, I would so love to see AlGore in the 2004 race! He was really entertaining in the 2000 race, and I'd love to see him in a debate with the other Democratic candidates. He wouldn't have an ice-cream cone's chance in hell of winning, but he could sure muddy the water in the Dumocratic primary.

[surrey]

I agree with you. There are too many unknowns that could surface by '08. She and bubba would have to commit massive Arkancide to clear the likely contenders out of the way. I also think their "star-power" will certailnly be much dimmer with each passing year. Bill is becoming so tedious and it will only get worse. He longs to be back in the seat of power as much as the Beast and they're both too immature to have the patience to wait.

[NYC Republican]

She might lose her Senate seat in 2006 That will never happen. Her and Schumer can keep their Senate seats as long as they want them. Even if Guiliani runs against her.