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Ruling: Reno Can't Be Sued for Elian Raid (Appeals Court)
AP ^ | 6/20/2003 | AP

Posted on 06/19/2003 10:33:25 PM PDT by TLBSHOW

Ruling: Reno Can't Be Sued for Elian Raid

Appeals Court Rules Former Attorney General Can't Be Sued by Elian Protesters

MIAMI June 20 — Protesters and neighbors who alleged their constitutional rights were violated during the raid to seize Elian Gonzalez cannot sue former Attorney General Janet Reno, a federal appeals court ruled Thursday.

The Atlanta-based panel reversed a lower court decision, stating Reno has immunity from damages because the 52 plaintiffs failed to show that she knew agents would violate their rights during the pre-dawn raid three years ago.

Armed federal agents removed Elian, then 6, from his Cuban-American family's Miami home. Reno said she had to order the raid because the family refused to turn over the boy after the government decided he should join his father back in Cuba, ending a five-month custody battle.

The plaintiffs said they were kicked, punched, thrown down, sprayed with pepper spray and tear gas, held at gunpoint and otherwise restrained.

The court said the connection between the behavior of the agents and Reno's supervisory role was "vague."


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption
KEYWORDS: booted; cuba; elian; immunity; jack; reno; thugs

1 posted on 06/19/2003 10:33:25 PM PDT by TLBSHOW
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To: TLBSHOW; ALOHA RONNIE; abner; aristeides; Mia T; Luis Gonzalez
The plaintiffs said they were kicked, punched, thrown down, sprayed with pepper spray and tear gas, held at gunpoint and otherwise restrained.

Don't let ALOHA RONNIE know about this travesty.

2 posted on 06/19/2003 10:38:42 PM PDT by Fred Mertz
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To: Fred Mertz
Lol! Nope Ronnie will never see this :)
3 posted on 06/19/2003 10:44:12 PM PDT by TheSpottedOwl (America...love it or leave it. Canada is due north-Mexico is directly south...start walking.)
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To: TheSpottedOwl; ALOHA RONNIE
Reminds me of the criminal who died just before sentencing ... the judge said --- he went to the higher court with no appeals !
4 posted on 06/19/2003 10:49:12 PM PDT by f.Christian (( I'm going to rechristen evolution, in honor of f.Christian, "shlockology"... HumanaeVitae ))
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6 posted on 06/19/2003 11:18:08 PM PDT by Consort
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To: Consort
To: DrCarl

I think sending a child to a Gulag is ... a great way * --- for the Clinton Administration to end.

15 Posted on 04/14/2000 08:46:43 PDT by eFudd

* recent post !

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To: technomage

To: DrCarl

Dr. Carl

ALERT: This is ... the beginning of the end * --- for algore.

120 Posted on 04/22/2000 08:17:25 PDT by technomage

* original link !

7 posted on 06/19/2003 11:29:01 PM PDT by f.Christian (( I'm going to rechristen evolution, in honor of f.Christian, "shlockology"... HumanaeVitae ))
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To: Consort
I'll never forget the liberal tauts that Marisleysis Gonzalez was a gold digger. No one seems to bring up the point now that she didn't cash in at all on this, contrary to popular propaganda at the time.

A few hours prior to that raid, that house was searched for guns, none found. Yet they used the excuse the excuse, to go in with gun blazings, that the Gonzalez may have weapons.

To me, this incident was by far the most abusive action our government has ever taken against private citizens for political gain. Why anyone would give them more power is beyond me.

What I think happened. Dad gave his blessing. Planned to follow. (that's why the nun did a 180) Castro finds out. Threatens Klintoon. Puts Dad's parents and in-laws in the gulag. Kids history. Spin the legacy.

8 posted on 06/19/2003 11:53:20 PM PDT by lizma
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To: TLBSHOW
This would be a Judicial Watch suit, correct?
9 posted on 06/19/2003 11:57:16 PM PDT by Ready4Freddy
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To: lizma
Who was it that 'searched that house a few hours prior to that raid'?
10 posted on 06/19/2003 11:58:51 PM PDT by Ready4Freddy
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To: TLBSHOW
Here's the decision, btw:

DONATO DALRYMPLE, GREGORY PAUL ALLEN, et. al., vs JANET RENO, in her personal capacity

11 posted on 06/20/2003 12:04:42 AM PDT by Ready4Freddy
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To: TLBSHOW
And here's the decision referred to in yesterday's decision:

LAZARO GONZALEZ, ANGELA GONZALEZ, MARISLEYSIS GONZALEZ, vs JANET RENO, DORIS MEISSNER, ERIC HOLDER, BETTY A. MILLS, INS Agent, et al.,

These cases are losers, all. The panel got a bit pithy in this one:

These vague and conclusory allegations do not establish supervisory liability. Plaintiffs make bold statements and legal conclusions without alleging any facts to support them. Plaintiffs appeal to the emotions by calling the events that transpired a paramilitary raid, but they do not allege any facts to suggest that the defendants did anything more than personally direct and cause the execution of valid search and arrest warrants. Plaintiffs state that there is a causal connection between these defendants’ acts and the excessive force used by the agents on the scene, but they do not allege any facts to support this causal connection.

Not the way to win an appeal.

12 posted on 06/20/2003 12:20:23 AM PDT by Ready4Freddy
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To: All
Reno for Guv? Recall *this*
14 posted on 06/20/2003 1:04:50 AM PDT by backhoe (Just an old keyboard cowboy, ridin' the trackball into the sunset...)
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To: Ready4Freddy
It's delusional to think that the government courts offer any justice.

The only justice left is what you have in your hand.
15 posted on 06/20/2003 5:45:35 AM PDT by the gillman@blacklagoon.com
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To: the gillman@blacklagoon.com
To: Prodigal Daughter

Let go(Clitler/Reno)...Let God(Elian).

Once before the theatre/clowns of the universe acted(baited)-out good vs. evil, and there was/are/to be ... vast repercussions...judas hung himself and the unhewned resurrected stone continues to topple empires...Jesus Christ!

34 Posted on 03/24/2000 13:02:49 PST by FletcherC.

16 posted on 06/22/2003 12:08:39 PM PDT by f.Christian (( I'm going to rechristen evolution, in honor of f.Christian, "shlockology"... HumanaeVitae ))
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