Mother defends breastfeeding baby while driving (followup on idiot)

WKYC-TV/DT Cleveland ^ | 6.17.03 | Vic Gideon

[Constitution Day]

BUMP for evening fun.

[Dog Gone]

I can't imagine a more interesting thread for a Friday afternoon.

[RMDupree]

There's big difference between tripping and falling (where you would instinctively turn to the side protecting your baby) and hurtling down the interstate at 70mph with your baby between you and the steering wheel.

Ridiculous!

[mylife]

you dont use instinct while driving??? rediculous

[Howlin]

The "sovereign citizen" movement is a loosely organized collection of groups and individuals who have adopted a right-wing anarchist ideology originating in the theories of a group called the Posse Comitatus in the 1970s. Its adherents believe that virtually all existing government in the United States is illegitimate and they seek to "restore" an idealized, minimalist government that never actually existed. To this end, sovereign citizens wage war against the government and other forms of authority using "paper terrorism" harassment and intimidation tactics, and occasionally resorting to violence.

[danmar]

takes some skill to breastfeed in a camaro

Beg to differ, it looks to me like a Chrysler Sebring Convertable; very tight quarters, I might add.

[Catspaw]

I can't imagine a more interesting thread for a Friday afternoon.

It's almost perfect--there's no full moon, though. It just seems like it.

[RMDupree]

Tell me something. How is "instinct" going to keep your baby from being smashed between your body and the steering wheel when someone cuts you off?

At that point, no matter what, you will have to make an evasive manuever to avoid crashing and that means, letting go of the baby...who will undoubtedly be thrown about the vehicle as you fishtail for control.

I cannot believe people are trying to justify this woman's blatant stupidity!

[bvw]

Should children be allowed in cars at all? After all, their crying can distract the driver. Perhaps we should require soundproof boxes.

Wait that's not enough ... the child might wave his/her arms or grimace or otherwise create a visual distraction to the driver.

We need an opaque, soundproof enclosure for children in cars.

Wait! That's still not enough. The child might dirty his diaper or throw up, or something that creates a bad smell that distracts the driver.

We need an airtight, opaque, soundprooof box for the child in the car.

Face it, otherwise a child in the car is just unsafe.

[scott7278]

"I'll admit to taking him at face value. I've got no reason to doubt him at this point."

FWIW (not much), I'm with you -- he would have to be a pretty well-researched liar!

[Chancellor Palpatine]

I missed it.

Looks like there is going to shortly come a time when some camo clad, trailer trash militia freak is going to be spending sme time behind bars.

[Kozak]

What's your Bar number and in which state are you a practicing lawyer?

DING!

[The "Visitor's" side of the scoreboard lights up...]

Add thisto the mix re husband:
http://bradbva.home.mindspring.com/freedom/

[scott7278]

"If you don't mind answering, what religious faith do you and your wife practice? The tenets sound familiar, but I can't put my finger on it."

It would seem to be Mennonite/Anabaptist or some variant, with his quoting of the Dordrecht Confession.

[Howlin]

We need to go to the big stuff:

[Howlin]

See 265; there's his religion.

[bvw]

RMDupree -- only forty years ago seat belts in cars were a rarity. Most front seats were bench seats. The whole family would sit in front to be together if they could. Were they all "blatantly stupid"?

[Howlin]

Were they all "blatantly stupid"?

No, they were uninformed.

Now we're not.

[Poohbah]

you dont use instinct while driving??? rediculous

Driving is most assuredly not instinctive.

And at 70 MPH, it doesn't matter if you try to protect your baby; that kid's going to be an unguided missile until it his the steering wheel. A 21-pound baby at 70 MPH has a kinetic energy of 2,156 foot-pounds. That energy gets expended independently of the vehicle's kinetic energy in a collision, unless the kid's hard-mounted in place.

The Incredible Hulk couldn't hold the kid securely, using his arms alone, in that kind of situation.

[bvw]

Gee ... sounds almost like the days before 1774, here. Citizens claiming sovereignity versus the King's Dicta!

How terrible. Let us rejoin Britian, today! God Save the Queen!

[RMDupree]

No, they weren't.

On that same note, you cannot compare today's traffic, drivers and vehicles with those either.

I guess it's safe to say that you, among others, have never seen pictures of children who were smashed to bits between the dashboard and the body of the person holding them. Once you seen that image, you wouldn't think like you do.

I'm going home to hug my kids. And I'll be praying for all babies, both in utero and out.