[Chad Fairbanks]

I wonder - did he do it in order to save his own butt? Never mind - I don't want to know why. It is despicible, no matter the reason.

[DPB101]

This should be interesting.

[MEG33]

They were guilty.If the Rosenbergs had cooperated,their death sentence would have been commuted so they died for the Soviet secrets they kept.Greenglass did testify against his sister and caused her conviction .They of course recruited him and passed the info he had to the Soviets.This info killed many Americans in Korea.How am I doing?...;)

[The Hon. Galahad Threepwood]

Isn't perjury a capital offense when it results in an execution?

Let's pretend to take the Commie bastard at his word and fry him.

[FOMTY]

Thanks.

[You Dirty Rats]

I'm sure there are some liberals and ex-commies out there who are all excited about the mileage they'll get from this one.

Outside of a few academics and devoted political junkies (those on our side as well as those on the Left), nobody under about age 65 has even heard of the Rosenbergs, much less cares. Those that do care are not going to change their minds on the basis of changed testimony 50 years later.

[Paleo Conservative]

Was he lying then or is he lying now?

[tubebender]

I thought the KGB files were opened a couple of years ago and definitely implicated the Rosenbergs...

[Lockbar]

In commemoration of the 50th anniversary of their execution in the electric chair, I would like to see both Rosenberg's rotting skeletons dug up and electrocuted again on TV. I hate communist scum, and anything that can demean them is fine with me. And no, I'm not a really nice guy in real life either!

[Tailgunner Joe]

Question: "What would you tell them if they were here today?"

Greenglass: "They were really stupid."

[dix]

As always, thanks for the tip. I had just checked on your posts at seven CST. I guess it's like somebody said, the Rosenberg's had the keys to the death house, and they didn't use them.

As far as all this bs about there never being a commie movement in the US, did you see the scene that showed 50,000 attending the demonstration in NY? Thanks again for the heads up.

[x]

This is the David Brock situation. Brock says "I lied for the right-wing." But was he lying then or is he lying now? Brock admits was willing to lie then for his rightist convictions maybe he's perfectly capable of lying today for his leftist beliefs. So it is with Greenglass.

But the crucial thing for Greenglass now is that his testimony helped send his sister to the electric chair. Whether she was guilty of espionage or not, he's probably carrying a lot of guilt that he has to resolve in some way or other, especially if he'd been led to believe that she would have been spared. Even if she was guilty, David Greenglass might feel like he's the one who's done something wrong that he needs to atone for.

[I_Love_My_Husband]

Did anyone watch this? What did he say?

[Consort]

They're dead, Jim.

[gwmoore]

The Rosenberg's were guilty as hell. If David Greenglass hadn't been acting as the conduit as well, the Soviets wouldn't have been able to build a "chinese copy" of the Fat Man design for years after '49. Their being Jewish had, IMHO little or nothing to do with espionage. Religion has NOTHING to do with their crimes. When the Venona documents were made public, and the archives of the Soviet Union were made public, which is one hell of a lot more openness than the US Government has shown about the whole deal, one sees plainly that they did, indeed act as couriers in the spy biz.

Sure, there are a lot of other actors in this game who are still breathing air who shouldn't be, but at least two aren't.

FYI, I'm 56, not over 65 like some earlier posters have stated was the cutoff age for knowing about this BS, and still know the names, and darn well know traitors when I hear about them. Having somewhat personal experience with the stuff they gave away, and holding the appropriate clearances to gain said experience, the thought of what they did sickens me to the core. I feel proud to having been investigated and deemed worthy of being able to work with such sensitive material, and hold no shame at having done so.

I, of course, like others my age, grew up in the shadow of the "duck and cover" era, and thought that Armageddon was only seconds away. Frankly, I dispise Communism, Communists, Leftists, and all the other scum who would disclose vital information to hostile or any other powers, for that matter, just for what they feel was "right". I realize that my tagline is from a Russian manual on the Nagant Revolver, but I simply happen to think that the line is both funny, and pertinent, regardless of who wrote it.

There are those who despise nuclear technology, and nuclear weapons, but those who had the foresight and genius to build the first one are extremely special. They were venturing into an extremely strange land, where the rules were not at all clear, and some paid the extreme penalty for the exploration. Their work, and the work of the Physicists Engineers, and Technicians who followed, maintained a peace for 50+ years which, if we had not followed the nuclear path, would surely have gone well toward destroying the world as we know it. IMHO, I consider a nuke/thermonuke like any other weapon, neither good nor bad, but only a tool, the good or evil of which is defined by the actions of those who employ it.

I only wish Greenglass and Fuchs had been turned into a couple of 1/4 watt resistors plugged into 2,300VAC like the Rosenbergs. I feel no sympathy, nor emotion, and whatever Greenglass says, or doesn't say, doesn't change the fact that he, and the others with him, were traitors to our great Republic, and like all traitors, should have been sentenced to death, the same as the Rosenbergs. Again, I emphasise that religion has 0.000 to do with the penalties or any explanations. To bring religion up is nothing but a smoke and mirror game. They could have been Protestant, Catholic, Buddhist, Moslem, Agnostic, or Atheist for that matter (If I have left any religions/non regilions out, please include them here, as it was not intentional on my part) A traitor is a traitor and should be treated as such. The penalty for treason is death, and should still be enforced as such.

Keep the Faith for Freedom

Greg

[StopGlobalWhining]

This is David Greenglass's extraordinary story, including the shocking revelation that he lied on the stand and sent his own sister to the electric chair!

I'm sure his sister and Julius would concur that it was indeed a shocking experience.

[Vigilantcitizen]

Locator.

[Lost Highway]

An Open Letter to the Rosenberg Son
By Ronald Radosh
FrontPageMagazine.com | June 18, 2003
http://www.frontpagemag.com/articles/ReadArticle.asp?ID=8447

Dear Robert:

It has been fifty years since your parents’ execution, and it is understandable that as the son whom their actions betrayed -- along with their country -- you should still cling to the idea of their innocence. But in the decades since 1953, we have learned much about your father, Julius Rosenberg, and the contributions he made to the Soviet Union as an active espionage agent. We also know, contrary to what you claim in your new book An Execution in the Family: One Son’s Journey, that your mother -- Ethel Rosenberg -- was not an innocent housewife as many of those who concede her husband’s guilt maintain. The Venona cables, which you discuss but never quote, prove conclusively that she was a knowledgeable accessory to your father’s espionage, and that she also recommended others to be recruited to the KGB. In a conspiracy case, that alone is sufficient for a person to be included in an indictment.

But you seem unable to grasp that the case against your parents was part of an effort to break an important Soviet espionage network, one that your father put together. Instead you insist on referring to it as a political trial meant to serve as a warning to the “progressive” Left, to strike fear into their hearts, as you put it in a recent interview, and to prove that “left-wingers were really agents of a foreign power.” As though this were not indeed the truth, at least in the case of active spies.

Why can’t you admit that the Venona decrypts conclusively prove that American Communists were indeed agents of a foreign power? The same decrypts show that your father put together a network of seven primary sources and two active liaison-couriers, as well as three others who carried out support work. All of these people were recruited, as was your father, from the ranks of the American Communist Party. Your father stole top secret military data, including the proximity fuse that years later the Soviets used to shoot down Major Francis Gary Powers’ U-2 plane. Klehr and Haynes refer to the fuse as “one of the most innovative advances of American military technology,” for which Moscow awarded your father a $1,000 bonus in March 1945.

Of course, we also know -- as Joyce Milton and I argued back in 1983 -- that the death sentence for your mother was intended by the prosecution as a “lever” to pressure your father to confess so they could move against his ring. But the government never expected to carry these executions out; indeed, even J. Edgar Hoover sent a memo opposing the execution of your mother. But as Communist true believers, they refused to confess, preferring martyrdom -- and making their own children orphans -- to telling the truth and saving their lives. Your uncle, David Greenglass, who also sought to stop the execution, put it accurately when he said that your parents “could have cleared themselves.” All they had to do was tell the truth.

I know that you have suffered greatly, and that as you reveal in your memoir, you have struggled to come to terms with what their trial means for our history. You make a start; but you fall far short of accomplishing your goal. You continue to give credence to myths that have long been answered. You insist that Venona is “devastating…to the government’s case,” when in fact, it establishes beyond doubt that your father was a Soviet spy. You say you now “accept the possibility” that he participated in what you call an “illegal and covert effort to help the Soviet Union defeat the Nazis,” forgetting that as a Communist his ambition was to overthrow the government of the United States, as well. You also denigrate the confirmation of the role your father played, provided by his KGB control Alexander Feklisov, writing him off in two pages as a “disreputable character interested in self-aggrandizement and financial gain.” However, any reader of his book knows that his motivation is only to honor and “to rehabilitate the name of” the Rosenbergs, whom he considers to have been genuine Soviet partisans.

Your contention that your father’s espionage for one of the bloodiest tyrants in history is understandable because he had bad eyesight and could not enter the U.S. Army, is sad, even desperate. I could understand if, like Feklisov, you argued that your parents were committed Communists who put their ideals into practice by stealing the military secrets of the imperialists to help their Soviet comrades. I would find that a rather poor excuse, but at least one that is honest. But instead, you continue to assert that the agencies that released the new evidence regularly practice “disinformation,” and are thus intent on creating “false leads to show my parents’ guilt.” In this way, instead of exculpating your parents’ crimes against their country, you continue them.

In the end the truth remains that your parents were traitors who betrayed their country and their sons for an illusion. They acted with courage, but for a cause that was corrupt. By recognizing this you would restore their humanity, and perhaps heal the wound you obviously still feel. Instead, you have chosen to continue the charade, pretending that their cause was noble and that they were heroes of an American “resistance.” Resistance to what?

For your own sake, I hope you are mentally prepared for the inevitable day when the KGB’s own archives reveal that your parents were guilty. Get ready, because it’s going to be soon.

Sincerely,

Ron Radosh

[Lonesome in Massachussets]

To paraphrase Alphonse Damato, "Greenglass is a putzhead."

[Redleg Duke]

Yeah, but he also says that his sister chose poorly in being involved in spying. That show was twisted to make her look the victim.

Like West Pointers keep trying to vindicate Custer's actions at the Little Big Horn, the liberals keep trying to vindicate the Rosenburgs. They were traitors who got what they deserved! The Clintons are just as bad.