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GUN CONTROL IS SOCIALIST
www.newswithviews.com ^ | June 17, 2003 | Larry Pratt

Posted on 06/19/2003 3:45:53 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe

As columnist Paul Craig Roberts has put it, "Law, once a shield of the innocent, is now a weapon in the hands of government."

Roberts is referring to a long and dangerous trend to expand the concept of crime to actions and non-actions in which no individual is harmed or threatened with harm. In our time one can be convicted of a felony and put in jail for killing a turtle, chopping down a tree, draining a swamp, polluting a body of water, and generally not doing everything that some bureaucrat says you have to do.

When we study socialist countries - be they Nazi Germany, the Soviet Union or too many others - we find a concept in the law called "crimes against the state." These are also sometimes called crimes against the people. In earlier days, they might have been called crimes against the king's peace. Biblically and constitutionally, crimes are against individuals and should result in capital punishment, restitution or acquittal. Non-criminal damages should lead to restitution. In the 17th and 18th centuries, this was how the criminal justice system operated in America.

Add to these crimes against the state that of possessing a prohibited object, specifically a firearm. Several local jurisdictions in the U.S. have banned a wide range of guns, and the federal government has banned a bunch as well. One need not commit a crime to risk being sent to jail for possessing a combination of metal, wood, and plastic parts.

What our founders required by law - carrying guns - is now illegal in many jurisdictions. And in all but Vermont and Alaska, permission is needed to exercise the "right" to bear a concealed firearm.

To the extent that the United States has imposed gun controls on a population "protected" by our Bill of Rights, we have a measure of how socialist our country has become. Our government was founded on the idea that individuals have God-given rights that need to be protected from that same government. Furthermore, government was seen as having no rights, but only a few well-defined duties. Socialism requires the reversal of our founding premises.

In Joyce Lee Malcom's study of Guns and Violence: The English Experience we find the record of how gun control came to England. It began to get very restrictive following World War II. Now that most guns have been confiscated (all legal guns were registered long ago), England is roaring into the socialist pit.

(Listen to my interview with Professor Malcolm about her book on the GOA web page. Go to http://gunowners.org/radio.htm and click on Previous Episodes.)

Margaret Thatcher sold off many government-owned industries when she was Prime Minister, but as we can see in the U.S., socialism through regulation can be just as stultifying as socialism in which the government owns the productive sector. Regulatory socialism was the Nazi model, proving that nominal private ownership does not prevent control from the center.

England is moving to crush other personal freedoms now that gun ownership has been virtually eliminated. Prime Minister Tony Blair has proposed restricting jury trials, eliminating the prohibition on double jeopardy and most ominously, proposing that an anonymous complaint be enough to put somebody in jail because he is deemed a danger to himself or the community.

Worse still, self-defense - even without a gun - is penalized. Everything else is monopolized in socialist England, so it is no surprise that self-defense becomes a monopoly of the state.

At the core of the Christian common law, the people are understood to be the owners of the law. Socialism considers law (and everything else) to belong to the government or to be controlled by it. The police are under the control of whoever owns the law.

Consider who are the most ardent gun control advocates in America. Senators Charles Schumer, Hillary Clinton and Diane Finestein are among the most eager to ban guns, and they are among the most socialist of our national politicians.

In the House, a dedicated opponent of firearms ownership and self-defense is Minority Leader Nancy Pelosi, an avowed socialist. This can be said because she is a member of the House Progressive Caucus, which is affiliated with the Democratic Socialists of America, which is affiliated with Socialist International.

Socialism is based on the arrogant assumption that there are a few (elected or in power by force) who are uniquely suited to decide all issues of life. Folks who think like that are hardly likely to make an exception for their subjects to take personal responsibility for their own defense.

As a rule, the more socialist the politicians, the more they want to restrict gun ownership to those who protect politicians - whether that be law enforcement agencies or private security guards (such as the NY City armed detective who travels as an armed guard for Sen. Schumer). Law enforcement is in place largely to tell the subjects of the socialists to obey the regulations of the regime or risk being put in jail.

Socialists do not like bad attitudes among their subjects, as we saw at Ruby Ridge and Waco, or as we saw in Chicago when Secret Service officers threatened a woman who expressed her disgust with Bill Clinton.

Socialists have an "us versus them" view of society. They are angry and feel threatened when they hear criticism of their policies. Did you see Sen. Clinton screaming at the top of her lungs when some of her subjects disagreed with her position on the Iraq war? As one wag quipped, he thought she was talking to Bill when she first heard her.

In any case, a government that sports a "bad attitude" combined with the belief that one is everyone else's Big Brother will result in a socialist crusade against guns.

Fight socialism. Buy a gun.


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1 posted on 06/19/2003 3:45:53 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe; Squantos; Travis McGee; Joe Brower; B4Ranch; Pete-R-Bilt; Sir Gawain; Lazamataz
dayaumm! this feller says it bump!
2 posted on 06/19/2003 3:50:47 PM PDT by glock rocks (shoot fast. shoot straight. shoot safe. practice. carry. molon labe)
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To: glock rocks
"Socialism is based on the arrogant assumption that there are a few (elected or in power by force) who are uniquely suited to decide all issues of life."

Somebody call Webster. This is the perfect definition.

3 posted on 06/19/2003 4:01:36 PM PDT by rudypoot
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To: glock rocks
That he does.
4 posted on 06/19/2003 4:02:08 PM PDT by harpseal (Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown)
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To: glock rocks
Bump
5 posted on 06/19/2003 4:04:18 PM PDT by two23
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To: rudypoot
Somebody call Webster. This is the perfect definition.

Yes, they attempt to impose by law, things that no normal person would ever willingly agree to.

6 posted on 06/19/2003 4:07:01 PM PDT by two23
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To: .30Carbine; .45MAN; dansangel; AnnaZ; AAABEST; blackie
check this out bump
7 posted on 06/19/2003 4:09:40 PM PDT by glock rocks (shoot fast. shoot straight. shoot safe. practice. carry. molon labe)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Thank you for posting this. A succinct view of the linkage between the socialist mind and the gun-grabber mentality.

The best ways to counter this are:

1. Never, ever, for any reason at all, ever, ever, no way, no how REGISTER your guns.

2. Have lots of guns. Keep most, but give some to friends (very good friends). And gosh, just 'lose track' of them...can you say the French word "cache." Have some throwaways around if the goons ever do come to the door. Be cooperative before you find a better time and venue to shoot them and the ones who sent them.

3. Remember that the leftists are busy brainwashing your neighbors into thinking that guns are bad. Be very nice to your neighbors (after all, it's a Christian thing to do). Introduce them to the sport, if possible. Otherwise keep your mouth shut and...

4. Buy lots of ammo. After all, they will go after the 'consumables' when (or maybe even before) they come for the hardware.

5. Study, be politically active, quiet and well-spoken. Apply the same rule to voting for a democrat that you do to gun registration. (Yeah, I know all the problems with limp-wristed RINO's, but never, ever vote democratic).

6. For a variety of reasons, be frugal (or if you are the rare person who can), make more money. The leftists will attack gun rights both through the law and ECONOMICALLY - witness some preliminary efforts to tax bullets (CA).

7. Pray.
8 posted on 06/19/2003 4:22:48 PM PDT by esopman (Blessings on Freepers Everywhere.)
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To: esopman; *bang_list

Militia - Got Liberty?
9 posted on 06/19/2003 4:50:13 PM PDT by TERMINATTOR (Don't tread on me!)
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To: esopman
Brother, your said it there.

I do have a list of exceptions to the rules you stated:












Study these class, there will be a quiz.
10 posted on 06/19/2003 4:56:42 PM PDT by Blue Collar Christian (I need to keep my .50 BMG so I can stop you when you come to take it. ><>)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Huge, Enormous, Tap-him-Twice PIIII-I-INGGGGG!!!!

thank you, Ace... keep 'em coming.

Juan
CGVet58
11 posted on 06/19/2003 5:07:18 PM PDT by CGVet58 (I still miss my ex-wife... but my aim is improving!)
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To: glock rocks
Guns are to dangerus for ordnary civilyins to possess.

If you want to play with reelly kool guns, join the BATFE and get proper training like me.

12 posted on 06/19/2003 5:22:08 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: *bang_list
Bang!
13 posted on 06/19/2003 5:23:55 PM PDT by Travis McGee (----- www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com -----)
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To: phasma proeliator
BANG_PING!
14 posted on 06/19/2003 6:35:17 PM PDT by Xphantasos
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To: esopman
You forgot to add: Be prepared to fight if necessary.
15 posted on 06/19/2003 6:56:35 PM PDT by ought-six
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Buy a gun.

Better yet, buy several.

At a minimum, I'd recommend two pistols chambered in 9mm. One full-size with 15 round pre-ban mags and one-compact for discrete carry.

Additionally, get a good 12 gauge shotgun made by Remington or Mossberg with an 18.5" or 20" barrel.

And last, but not least, get a semiautomatic rifle in 5.56mm, and a decent bolt action with a good scope in .308 or .30-06.

16 posted on 06/19/2003 6:58:00 PM PDT by Mulder (Live Free or die)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Socialism requires the reversal of our founding premises.

A point that can't be stressed enough!

17 posted on 06/19/2003 7:06:17 PM PDT by TigersEye (Joe McCarthy was right...so was PT Barnum!)
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To: TigersEye
That is the goal of government schools and universities.

What the teachers and professors do not know. What they will learn the hard way is that when the communists do take over take control of the government,thanks to the efforts of the teachers and professors there will be a blodbath: Theirs [the teachers and professors that made it all possible].
18 posted on 06/19/2003 7:18:53 PM PDT by sport
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Socialism is a disease. Lead pills cure it!
19 posted on 06/19/2003 7:19:05 PM PDT by TigersEye (Molon lave, Baby!)
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To: sport
See how government is using its muscle in education here
20 posted on 06/19/2003 7:21:19 PM PDT by TigersEye (Molon lave, Baby!)
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