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To: DoughtyOne

I don't have any discomfort with the idea that it should be illegal to canabalise some human lives for other human lives.

If you have no discomfort stating that you don't mind condemning a person like Ronald Reagan to a slow process that will see him lose his mind and spend a decade or more in a world without communication or recognition, it's okay with me. I would. And if you would like to state that using using human embryo cells to cure him would be wrong, it's okay with me. I wouldn't.

Where is the protection for anyone if some humans can decide that other humans are spare parts or slave labor or not deserving of protection and the government works to aide and protect the killers and slavers rather than the victims? Legitimate governments serve only to protect rights of all, not only those who are in power or in the majority or who have matured enough.

If you wish to state that human embryo cells rank equally with a fully grown man, it's okay with me. I wouldn't. Your side loves to throw around the canabalism/spare parts/slave labor/or not deserving of protection/killers and slavers words and phrases around. All it does is make you look juvenile.

(BTW, the only successful animal experiments with cloned stem cells - from somatic cell nuclear transfer or SCNT - were in treating diabetic mice. The stem cells were not "embryonic" stem cells, however. The cloned embryos were implanted into a host mother, the embryo allowed to grow to maturity, and then killed in order to harvest the desired - adult - stem cells. For all that work, the researchers would have done better to find ways to use the patient's own adult stem cells, don't you agree?)

Well if I harbored your beliefs about life being life I sure wouldn't. "...and then killed in order to..." After all your colorful commentary, you don't see a conflict here? What happened to your canabalism/spare parts/slave labor/or not deserving of protection/killers and slavers talk?

Yes I would rather see a patient's own adult stem cells used.

224 posted on 06/19/2003 4:05 PM PDT by hocndoc (Choice is the # 1 killer in the US.)

You wrote, "If you wish to state that human embryo cells rank equally with a fully grown man, it's okay with me." Do you mean to focus our attention upon the cells that are part of the organism called an embryo or were you referring to the whole individual human organism called emrbyo?

I am not bothered that Mr. Reagan will not be treated by cells taken from his twin who was created and killed to obtain his treatment.

The *rights* of a human embryo rank equally with the ^rights* of a fully grown man. Equal rights for all humans, simply because they are human. Otherwise, who will decide which will die and which will live and for the benefit of whom?

I don't understand your last statement, at all.
(""Well if I harbored your beliefs about life being life I sure wouldn't. "...and then killed in order to..." After all your colorful commentary, you don't see a conflict here? What happened to your canabalism/spare parts/slave labor/or not deserving of protection/killers and slavers talk?"")

I disapprove of creating and nurturing humans with the intended purpose of killing them at any stage of life, cloned or not.