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To: DoughtyOne
Stuff like this gets pretty deep for me. Let's face it, the Hells Angels are a terrible source for information and such charges. While some or all of what is being stated may be true, how do you know?

Well, in this example, from the corroborating testimony of the BATF agent whistleblower who not only confirmed Barger's testimiony [Barger's out of custody now, BTW, and is now running an Arizona motorcycle shop] but expanded upon it. Note too the timing; at the time that happened John Caulfield and G. Gordon Liddy were both working for the Treasury in the BATF, before they became better known for their Watergate-related activities. And Barger very accurately described what would later be revealed to be very similar to the *Operation Gemstone* plan Liddy later proposed to Attorney General John Mitchell, an eventual convicted felon himaelf.

And in general, from my uncle, a 28-year veteran of the US Secret Service, who, when I was considering a federal law enforcement job and possible career, filled me in on the activities of the BATF [previously ATTU; Alcohol & Tobacco Tax Unit of the Treasury Dept.] particularly in Dallas on November 22 of 1963, and suggested I stay as far from that bunch as possible. If you think the FBI badmouths the BATF agents, you should hear what their [now former] fellow Treasury agents had to say about them.

Uncle Denny had a generally high opinion of the Postal Service and the uniformed officers of the Border Patrol, and for the technical expertise found among FAA investigators. But things have changed in those agencies over the last few years, too.

For more on former BATF agent Larry Shears and his testimony as to the BATF role in covert domestic political activity, see the transcript of Plans to kill Eldridge Cleaver and Cesar Chavez: Treasury Dept. ATF, Larry Shears, Dec. 17, 1971, 5:50 p.m., Channel 23, Los Angeles as reported in the New York Times, January 2, 1972.

-archy-/-

55 posted on 06/18/2003 10:08:14 AM PDT by archy (Keep in mind that the milk of human kindness comes from a beast that is both cannibal and a vampire.)
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To: archy
I think you could tell from my comments that I'm wasn't trying to state the information you provided was unbelievable by any means. I appreciate what you've got to say and don't disagree with your premise and your relatives comments at all.

It's disenheartening to see this situation continue. In the last couple of decades, me eyes have really been opened.
57 posted on 06/18/2003 10:15:23 AM PDT by DoughtyOne
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