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Powerful Senator Endorses Destroying Computers of Illegal Downloaders (Orrin Hatch)
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| 6/17/03
| Ted Bridis
Posted on 06/17/2003 2:54:06 PM PDT by Jean S
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To: JeanS
"I'm interested," Hatch interrupted. He said damaging someone's computer "may be the only way you can teach somebody about copyrights." Would he endorse blowing out the tires of speeders to teach them about speed limits?
-PJ
To: TomGuy
whatever it is it is not copyright theft
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posted on
06/17/2003 8:21:17 PM PDT
by
Destro
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To: JeanS
>>>"I'm interested," Hatch interrupted. He said damaging someone's computer "may be the only way you can teach somebody about copyrights."Orrin, Orrin, Orrin.
Time for you to retire. LOL
To: TomGuy
Downloading songs may be theft, not copyright violation, unless the downloader repackages and sells the song as the downloader's own. Downloading songs should be under theft crimes, not copyright crimes. I wonder what the Founding Fathers would have thought of the notion that a restauranteur has to pay for permission to sing songs for guests, even when no transcription of the music is involved.
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posted on
06/17/2003 8:23:44 PM PDT
by
supercat
(TAG--you're it!)
To: agitator
......and remembers the utter wasteland that lies betwixt his ears.
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posted on
06/17/2003 8:26:49 PM PDT
by
jeremiah
(Sunshine scares all of them, for they all are cockaroaches)
To: cherry_bomb88
Whatever you fear the Dems will do, the Republicans actually will be the ones to spearhead the thing........and vice versa.....count on it.
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posted on
06/17/2003 8:29:28 PM PDT
by
jeremiah
(Sunshine scares all of them, for they all are cockaroaches)
To: Charles Martel
"they can expect cyber-reprisals"
If they wiped out years of someone's work on a hard drive,
what makes you think that an adequate reprisal would be limited to a cyber reprisal?
To: jpl
I would love to know how one goes about remotely "destroying a computer". Maybe not destroy the computer but it is very easy to erradicate all the data or hose the BIOS. Very easy.
To: Bella_Bru; KneelBeforeZod
He's so gayyyyyyyyyyy.
Seriously I've heard rumors for years that he is.
This is soooo gay of him to do.
To: rwfromkansas
Heck, I would vote against my senator for this reason alone if he voted for it and I don't care that he is Republican. Try having a gutless turd like voinavich for a senator... I WILL be voting against him next time around, even though he is a republican. These people are NOT our friends. And I'm finished with these nit-wits who piss and moan about handing power over to the democrats. With republicans like these, who needs democrats?!
You know what the big difference between the democrats and republicans?... If the democrats proposed a bill to immediately scrap the Bill of Rights, the republicans would quickly denounce it in favor of their plan to phase it out over the next three years.
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posted on
06/17/2003 9:39:19 PM PDT
by
Orangedog
(Soccer-Moms are the biggest threat to your freedoms and the republic !)
To: JeanS
Why is Hatch helping the democrats?
Statements like Hatch's are part of the reason that Republicans are the minority party.
This gets ZERO votes for the Republicans, but
it turns millions of 20-somethings into enemies.
Hatch is insane.
To: JeanS
Does Scottish Law permit this?
To: oldironsides
Could that lead to car squashing for speeders? This could be a big thing for car sales. Use a car to break the law and the police send it to the special yard for vehicles that offend. Why not crush the car with the driver inside? That would permanently end the perp's speeding and provide a boon to the undertakig industry as well. And why not have the computer discharge a high-voltage charge to the keyboard and terminate the music downloader as well as the computer? Makes sense to me. Hatch = Booby Hatch.
To: JeanS
This is not about illegal downloads, its about one year subscriptions to software like the proposed Microsoft Distribution - if your subscription times out your PC can then be disabled, prompting you to return to the subscription or reload your "NEW" O/S or software package!!! MP3's my ass:)
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posted on
06/17/2003 9:59:34 PM PDT
by
Jumper
To: glock rocks
This is one of the strangest things Orrin has proposed. The music industry needs to learn to use the Internet, not destroy computers. I think I need to place a call...
To: TomGuy
No offense, but you're sort of, um, talking out your arse.
Downloading a song without permission of the copyright holder is infringement of copyright. Violating copyright is not contingent on "repackaging" or "selling a song" as one's own.
Look closely at the word "copyright" for a moment. It is the exclusive RIGHT to COPY. Downloading a song -- i.e., making a copy -- is a violation of that exclusive right. To bring it close to home: so is the rash of posting copyrighted articles that occurs here at Free Republic.
There are valid arguments to be made on both sides of the copyright issue. But the debate would be better served if people would take the time to understand the basics of the whole thing. I don't think I've ever seen more uninformed commentary on any topic than I continually see regarding copyright matters.
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posted on
06/17/2003 10:13:51 PM PDT
by
wizzler
To: wizzler
Look closely at the word "copyright" for a moment. It is the exclusive RIGHT to COPY. If a restauranteur has his employees sing a copyrighted song like the retroactively-recopyrighted "Happy Birthday" without paying ASCAP their dues, exactly what "copying" has occurred to justify ASCAP's claims of copyright infringement?
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posted on
06/17/2003 10:18:21 PM PDT
by
supercat
(TAG--you're it!)
To: Myrddin
Just wait till first monitor overheats and catchs fire and grandma and some little childrens burn up toasty...will make dumbf**k look really really bright. Music industry be sucking on class action law suits then.
To: MD_Willington_1976
True can...but class action lawsuit should give music corps pause....can they afford even worse sales?
To: JeanS
If this is more of what we get from GOP control of all three branches, it's a sound argument for split government.
Hatch is, at best, senile. This kind of stupidity cannot be rewarded by re-electing the same idiots.
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