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Bush Presidency is Advancing the Progressive Agenda
Sierra Times ^ | 6-17-03 | John Bender

Posted on 06/17/2003 5:07:22 AM PDT by SUSSA

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To: SUSSA
And how do you suggest we get Bush to govern like a conservative?

By growing the Conservative base so that it's larger than the moderate and liberal bases combined. If it's already larger, than contact the White House and the Congress in writing, preferably, and let then know how you feel.

The only pressure we have is our vote.

Try some of the stuff I mentioned. If you are into activism, hold rallies, marches, etc. Be creative. Fight for what you believe in...don't run away mad.

He has to earn it like any other politician.

Oh geez, not the "he has to earn" or "vote my principles" or the "vote my conscience" or the "vote my morals" thing again. That stuff don't mix with raw politics.

If he doesn't start governing like a conservative, I will not vote for him again. You may do as you please with your vote. I'll do as I please with mine.

There you go again. Threatening to enable the Liberals again. I asked you not to do that. You guys and the Democrats can be real pains.

581 posted on 06/18/2003 8:51:24 PM PDT by Consort
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To: TLBSHOW
Bush is more of a conservative than you are and he doesn't suffer the advanced mental illness you, uncle bill and the rest of your DU buddies do.
582 posted on 06/18/2003 9:00:33 PM PDT by Deb (You couldn't see the truth if it sat on your face.)
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To: Deb
Bush is no conservative, and I hope you realize that by now. He's a good man, but his handlers are socialists.

Why do I waste my time?

583 posted on 06/18/2003 9:04:06 PM PDT by Fred Mertz
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To: Amelia; MAF; Carry_Okie
Not much, I admit.

Let me put this to you. I view FR as a whetstone to sharpen my mind and my conservative arguments.

Because I am an FR denizen, I am much more informed than most folks on either side.

Because I possess this knowledge, the possession of same requires a higher standard. If i know that my vote will help to further the Socialist Nanny State we are sliding into, how can I (in good conscience) vote for the person that does that, just at a slower pace than the other guy?

584 posted on 06/18/2003 9:06:27 PM PDT by sauropod (Watch out for low flying brooms! The Witch has left the Wal-Mart)
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To: Fred Mertz
she needs her eyes opened because Bush is no conservative, not even close.
585 posted on 06/18/2003 9:08:22 PM PDT by TLBSHOW (the gift is to see the truth)
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To: Deb
I guess we will have to disagree about Socialist Bush!
586 posted on 06/18/2003 9:10:11 PM PDT by TLBSHOW (the gift is to see the truth unlike deb)
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To: sauropod
I've been "enjoying" it since 1994. Remember the Gingrich Revolution?

20 years ago, the Republican leader was out saying "government is not the solution to our problem, government is the problem".

10 years ago, the Republican leader was calling for a "second American revolution" and the abolition of no less than 4 cabinet departments.

Now, we're being told to accept a massive increase in the size of the government not seen since the days of LBJ. We're being told to accept the renewal of the idiotic assault weapons ban, while the same politicans turn a blind eye to violations of our borders laws in masse. Furthermore, we're being told we need to give up our Rights in order to be "safe" from terrorists, who while dangerous, pose nowhere near the threat the USSR did.

So when are our Republican leaders going to actually start acting like Republicans? "Shut up and wait" simply isn't going to cut it, especially when large number of so-called "Republicans" are calling for the gun-grabbing statist, Guiliani, to be the nominee in 2008.

587 posted on 06/18/2003 9:10:29 PM PDT by Mulder (Live Free or die)
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To: Deb
They aren't DUers, Deb, they're benighted fringers , who see themselves as the ONLY ones who are Conservatives. GOD, only knows how or why they do, but they do.
588 posted on 06/18/2003 9:10:29 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons
At least we know what you are and where you stand.

How are the cow plops?

589 posted on 06/18/2003 9:14:18 PM PDT by Fred Mertz
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To: sauropod
Because you can have hope in your own good works and the works of other likeminded people that things can turn around before we slide forevermore into that socialist nanny state.

Throwing in the towel does no good because once that socialist nanny state takes over completely, you will never regain your freedom. Just look how difficult it is to gain the freedoms already lost back?

Go to Hell shock value doesn't work either. It was already tried with Clinton. All that got us was a Go Straight to Hell card without passing Go! Luckily, we got to roll again.

Just as you say you will never soften on your principles, I will NEVER vote in the hopes that this country will suffer just to "show them".

590 posted on 06/18/2003 9:19:28 PM PDT by Ms. AntiFeminazi (three rights make a LEFT)
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To: nopardons
I know who they are, I'm just trying to make them scream. Not much on TV tonight.
591 posted on 06/18/2003 9:21:50 PM PDT by Deb (You couldn't see the truth if it sat on your face.)
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To: Deb
Not much on TV tonight

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tonight? LOL or any other night for that matter.
592 posted on 06/18/2003 9:23:42 PM PDT by TLBSHOW (the gift is to see the truth unlike deb)
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To: Fred Mertz
Fred, when you move to that international center of Constitutional freedm and Democracy, Mexico...will you send me back one of them big hats with all the sequins and stuff?
593 posted on 06/18/2003 9:27:15 PM PDT by Deb (Vincente Fox, now there's a Conservative!!)
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To: Deb
I'm considering Costa Rica also. I'll send you whatever you wish.
594 posted on 06/18/2003 9:30:09 PM PDT by Fred Mertz
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To: SUSSA

With Hitlery at the helm the full-attack has begun. The democRATS are the Leftist Progressives, in which we need to be aware of, yet 500 something posts on this, stupid arguing.

Look What the Official DNC Web Site is Spinning now!

Also Click Here

And, this is their main graphic.


595 posted on 06/18/2003 9:31:58 PM PDT by TaRaRaBoomDeAyGoreLostToday!
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To: Deb
Within reason, of course.
596 posted on 06/18/2003 9:32:01 PM PDT by Fred Mertz
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To: Fred Mertz
Well Bush sure isn't the Conservative ole Vincente Fox is, that's fer sure. But the "socialist" idocy is likewise "getting old and sour". And hanging with the political Flat Earth Society around here is affecting your IQ.

Why do you waste your time? You should be packing.

597 posted on 06/18/2003 9:34:36 PM PDT by Deb (Vincente Fox, now there's a Conservative!!)
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To: Fred Mertz
Okay, Costa Rica...now you're talkin'. Isn't Sting the president of CR now?
598 posted on 06/18/2003 9:37:53 PM PDT by Deb (Vincente Fox, now there's a Conservative!!)
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To: Deb
You're right! I should be packing, but I have a dog.
599 posted on 06/18/2003 9:38:18 PM PDT by Fred Mertz
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To: Deb
My old college classmate was President of CR in the mid-nineties. Jose Figueres (something).
600 posted on 06/18/2003 9:40:09 PM PDT by Fred Mertz
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