[Ms. AntiFeminazi]

Because you can have hope in your own good works and the works of other likeminded people that things can turn around before we slide forevermore into that socialist nanny state.

Throwing in the towel does no good because once that socialist nanny state takes over completely, you will never regain your freedom. Just look how difficult it is to gain the freedoms already lost back?

Go to Hell shock value doesn't work either. It was already tried with Clinton. All that got us was a Go Straight to Hell card without passing Go! Luckily, we got to roll again.

Just as you say you will never soften on your principles, I will NEVER vote in the hopes that this country will suffer just to "show them".

[sauropod]

We will agree to disagree agreeably.

I know someone that sat at a table with either Karl Rove or Andy Card (can't remember which) and asked him "What about the conservatives?"

The response was "We don't care about the conservatives. They have no place else to go."

True story.