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Sexual orientation: a state of being, not just a sex act
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Posted on 06/17/2003 3:36:28 AM PDT by chance33_98

Sexual orientation: a state of being, not just a sex act

Joan M. Garry

I get uncomfortable talking about sex. As a good Irish-Catholic girl, public discussions of that most private of associations bring out the prude in me. When my school-age kids bring it up, we don't talk about the mechanics, but about love, family, respect, safety, honesty and responsibility. Otherwise, sex is a private matter between my partner and me.

So I'm always taken aback when people confuse sexual orientation with what someone does in the bedroom -- as if they could divine what my partner and I do behind closed doors simply by knowing we're partners. And as a gay civil-rights leader, I spend a lot of time fighting those who maliciously try to convince people that being gay is not a key ingredient of who someone is, but simply what someone does in bed.

In an ideal world, the forthcoming U.S. Supreme Court (news - web sites) decision in Lawrence vs. Texas -- the challenge by Lambda Legal, our community's legal advocacy group, to Texas' discriminatory ''homosexual conduct law'' -- would put that asinine assumption to rest.

The underlying rationale of Lambda Legal's equal-protection argument is simple yet profound: Being gay or straight is just that -- a state of being. It's not a sex act. Sexual orientation is as fundamental as a person's sex, age, skin color or fingerprints. Gay people -- and on some level, most straight people -- know this to be true. And our laws shouldn't prosecute one group of people for something that's legal for everyone else.

Yet even if the Supreme Court finds that gays and lesbians are entitled to equal protection of the law, it would not be leading public understanding of our lives. Rather, the court would be following it.

Support rises

Last month, Gallup's annual values and beliefs survey found 60% of Americans believe homosexuality should not be criminalized, up from 43% when the question was first asked in 1977. A growing percentage (now 49%) favors legal recognition of our relationships. Meanwhile, visible gay parents such as Rosie O'Donnell and former NFL player Esera Tuaolo show that our children are raised with the same love, devotion and attention as those of straight parents.

This new understanding and visibility contrast starkly with the Supreme Court's 5-4 decision in 1986 to uphold the constitutionality of sodomy laws based on Justice Byron White's assertion that ''no connection between family, marriage or procreation on the one hand and homosexual activity on the other has been demonstrated'' in the case.

Back in 1986, that probably made sense to many Americans. Sensational media coverage of AIDS (news - web sites) was the primary filter through which our lives were presented. Few if any laws reinforced all-but-invisible gay families.

17 years of progress

Today, our cultural landscape has changed dramatically -- and permanently. Gay Americans live openly as respected members of their communities. Gallup found that 88% of Americans support workplace protections for gays and lesbians, and 62% favor giving same-sex couples the same health care benefits as straight couples.

How does this reconcile with the fact that 52% still believe homosexuality is ''morally wrong''?

The answer's simple. People are coming to understand that gay Americans are here to stay and that personal (and evolving) beliefs about the morality of homosexuality should not impede the development of a society where gay people and families are treated equally. Personal beliefs and public respect can and do co-exist, just as straight and gay Americans do.

But neither our laws nor our popular culture yet fully reflects the inclusion and respect suggested by Gallup. That is why the Supreme Court case is so important. Gay people should no longer be defined by what we do in bed, but by who we are. The focus must shift from a lurid fascination with our sex lives toward a cultural understanding that we share common values of love, family, respect, safety, honesty and responsibility.

A single court decision won't transform how Americans view our lives. But it would challenge those who try to slow our civil-rights progress by treating us as sex objects. And it would underscore that the fundamental principles of equality apply to us, too.

Joan M. Garry is executive director of the Gay & Lesbian Alliance Against Defamation (GLAAD).


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I get uncomfortable talking about sex.


Uh yeah, we see why.

1 posted on 06/17/2003 3:36:29 AM PDT by chance33_98
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To: chance33_98
The radical gays don't want equality or respect. They want to force the rest of society to accept THEIR lifstyle choice as a socially acceptable and morally valid form of personal behavior.
2 posted on 06/17/2003 3:39:57 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: chance33_98
Sexual orientation is as fundamental as a person's sex, age, skin color or fingerprints.

So this is the bottom line. This statement leads logically into civil rights. This GIANT LOAD OF CRAP she espouses is the claim for all kinds of legal action against those of us who choose not to have anything to do with homosexuality.

3 posted on 06/17/2003 3:45:23 AM PDT by ovrtaxt
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To: chance33_98
"And as a gay civil-rights leader, I spend a lot of time fighting those who maliciously try to convince people that being gay is not a key ingredient of who someone is...."

Queers are mentally ill, and should be treated as such. That they don't recognize their illness is typical of being mentally ill.

4 posted on 06/17/2003 3:50:36 AM PDT by Wonder Warthog (The Hog of Steel)
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To: ovrtaxt
No it isn't. Sexual conduct is NOT an immutable state of being like sex, age, skin color, or finger prints. Its a personal CHOICE of when and where to engage in sexual activity. To imply that its a civil rights matter is both outrageous and offensive. If Joan M. Garry is correct, we should establish an entitlement for sexual desires. I was looking earlier in the night at a local news report about prostitution and the LAPD says your car will be seized and auctioned off if you solicit sex for money. That's right, sexual conduct, whether heterosexual or homo, won't become a civil right any time soon.
5 posted on 06/17/2003 3:51:31 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: ovrtaxt
"Being gay or straight is just that - a state of being."

OK. So it follows from that statement that homosexuals and heterosexuals are FUNDAMENTALLY different. Which means that they can't really understand or agree with each other on a fundamental level about fundamental questions. It is an argument, whether this spokesman for gays knows it or not, for segregation.
6 posted on 06/17/2003 4:02:05 AM PDT by ricpic
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To: goldstategop
That's right, sexual conduct, whether heterosexual or homo, won't become a civil right any time soon.

You say that now, but don't be so sure. The limits of logic don't exist for these people. The radical gays want political power, and there are votes to be had. The republicans are VERY receptive to those votes. Look at the shift towards medicare 'reform' and the huge spending bill the president is pushing, as an example of how far politicians will whore out their principles for votes.

7 posted on 06/17/2003 4:04:44 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (Yes, I am, indeed, a babe magnet.)
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To: ovrtaxt
That's right: give a gimme to non-taxpayers and another handout to the geezer set. Republicans must be proud of their handiwork in advancing the future of socialism in this country.
8 posted on 06/17/2003 4:07:32 AM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives On In My Heart Forever)
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To: chance33_98
So I'm always taken aback when people confuse sexual orientation with what someone does in the bedroom -- as if they could divine what my partner and I do behind closed doors simply by knowing we're partners.

This is known as "ideas of reference".

Believe it or not, m'am, no one-I mean, no one-is trying to divine what you and your partner do behind closed doors.

9 posted on 06/17/2003 4:07:58 AM PDT by Jim Noble
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To: chance33_98
You should have added a barf alert for that PICTURE. Not the article above it.
10 posted on 06/17/2003 4:08:16 AM PDT by Paul C. Jesup
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To: Paul C. Jesup
A few beers and some lipstick and she will ready roll...
11 posted on 06/17/2003 4:12:05 AM PDT by chance33_98 (www.hannahmore.com -- Shepherd Of Salisbury Plain is online, more to come! (my website))
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To: goldstategop
You slipped in a change in the topic under discussion, from sexual orientation to sexual conduct. Did you personally choose to be heterosexual?
12 posted on 06/17/2003 4:14:05 AM PDT by jejones
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To: chance33_98
A few beers and some lipstick and she will ready roll

I think you need to lay down, I think you may have had one to many beers yourself.

13 posted on 06/17/2003 4:16:15 AM PDT by Paul C. Jesup
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To: ricpic
"Being gay or straight is just that - a state of being."

"Gays" are just like "straights," but fundamentally different.

14 posted on 06/17/2003 4:31:39 AM PDT by Yeti
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To: Yeti
if she was an irish catholic and paid attention at school, she would have learnt that homosexuality is a fundamentally disordered lifestyle and inclination that should be treated with kindness and love but not accepted as O.K.
15 posted on 06/17/2003 4:51:28 AM PDT by epluribus_2
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To: jejones
We can have a discussion about this, but you are just being a troll now. You can't ignore the very plain words of someone's post and be taken seriously.
16 posted on 06/17/2003 4:55:56 AM PDT by hopespringseternal
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To: chance33_98
"Sprechllltt, gizizzzzz" (the sound of a barf).
17 posted on 06/17/2003 4:59:31 AM PDT by hardhead ("Curly, don't say its a fine morning or I'll shoot you." - John Wayne, 'McLintock' 1963)
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To: chance33_98
Not to put too fine a point on it, but one could say that pedophilia or severe psychoses are also "states of being". We do not allow the pedophile to exercise his desires without consequence, and the psychotic isn't permitted to roam naked while discoursing on the evils of the tiny men in his spleen.

It is society's prerogative to define its cultural norms; it is not obligated to recognize or confer status on those who deviate from those norms, voluntarily or not. While homosexuals have the right to make the argument, society is not compelled to agree.

18 posted on 06/17/2003 5:29:40 AM PDT by Mr. Bird
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To: Mr. Bird
And in this particular country, anyone has a right to make a case for his/her freedom to do anything in particular and maybe make the act "legal". But no such right exists to force everyone to accept the act as "normal".
19 posted on 06/17/2003 6:35:50 AM PDT by epluribus_2
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To: chance33_98
As a good FREAKISH Irish-Catholic girl
20 posted on 06/17/2003 6:49:39 AM PDT by GrandMoM ("Vengeance is Mine , I will repay," says the Lord.)
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