[cicero2k]

I am glad sacramento-gwb group got this message. The Rising Wind cell did not intend us to get it, but our group ID has the word Scaramento in it and they did not get that the gwb part means George Bush.

The motivations of the activities of this group has been a mystery to me. Are they really against agriculture? Do they really think Sadam Husien is good for the Iraq people, the region, especially the women? I did not think so.

So reading a message for internal consumption is enlightening. First the emphasis on paganism. A light went off on this one. So, they are anti-religion and the religious influence in this country. They can't stand the fact that America remains the most religious advanced nation in the world. They don't like religion in schools, courts or any public venue even though the country was founded by religious people as an extension of Christian principals. So they mostly hide this and try to sell paganism with environmental, peace and anti-globalism. Wow, I never realized.

Then the reference to cells. While I don't think they advocate violence the terrorist metaphor is not accidental.

[RightWhale]

they are anti-religion and the religious influence in this country

Paganism died out when Christianity became the religion of Rome. These people aren't that kind of Pagan. The old Pagans were highly religious. So what are these people really? History buffs?

[Semper Paratus]

Weren't they the group that drove Detective Joe Friday and Captain Gannon crazy?

[Blzbba]

" So, they are anti-religion and the religious influence in this country. They can't stand the fact that America remains the most religious advanced nation in the world.."

Yeah, which is why I found the following phrase pretty hilarous!

"We are also looking for any large space (church rooms.."

I wouldn't want these too-slack-to-afford-a-Motel-Six pagans even "crashing" in my backyard!

[D. Brian Carter]

I find it kind of ironic that this pagan group wants the use of churches to house their fellow tree worshippers.

Even funnier is to think anyone takes these guys seriously. Check out some of the capsules for the articles on the website:

An advice column mixing ancient prophetic traditions and common sense

An astrological resource with moon phases, sun and moon sign listings and more!

Delve into Discordianism and the humorous worship of Eris.

Create a Faerie garden with your children and teach them the wonders of nature.

An scripted Beltane ritual to contact the Faerie Realm

A strong look at the hawthorn tree lore and ritual for your whole family.

A Beltane cooking ritual to offer your loved ones magickal dining.

No matter how hard I tried, Butterfly found me.

The hilarious tale of a totem challenged priestess and her divine answer.

Spiders have been sharing lessons with me. Now I share them with you.

[Kenton]

My suggestion for these folks - Find a dumpster, clean it out, give all edible scraps to "The Hungry", recycle everything else, sleep inside... plenty of room for sleeping bags, and the smell shoudn't bother them a bit.

[Emma]

Then the reference to cells. While I don't think they advocate violence the terrorist metaphor is not accidental.

"cells" are a form of organization. terror is orthogonal.

[HurkinMcGurkin]

Did someone say P.A.G.A.N.'s?(People Against Goodness and Normalcy)

I thought Friday and Striebeck took care of them years ago?

Sorry, couldn't resist. Anytime I hear the word "pagan", I think of Dragnet.

[GovernmentShrinker]

These people do not represent all pagans, any more than the many Marxist activists who do their activism in the name of Christianity represent all Christians (and you'll find many of those Marxist Christians populating the same protests that these pagans are touting).

[jedwardtremlett]

*coughs*

"Pagans" are behind Peace, Trade and Environmental Protests? As a pro-war Pagan, I resemble that remark. : )

J

[honeygrl]

Well, I have a friend that is pagan and is also a very conservative republican. Her hubby is in the military and he's also conservative. She's not anti-religion and wouldn't in a million years back the peace protestors during the Iraq war. Maybe she's an oddball in the pagan community, I don't know. I know I'm not going to lump them all together and say they are all anti-religion because what they believe IS their religion. There are a lot of different varieties of pagans and they all have their own /religious/ beliefs. I'm not pagan myself but I learned alot about pagan religions from her. Saying they are anti-religion is showing how little you know about what they believe. They don't all hate christians and part of their religion is keeping it to themselves, rather than telling everyone in the world their personal beliefs and trying to convert them. Just because they keep their spiritual beliefs private, doesn't mean they are hiding anything bad. Seriously, you should learn more about a religion before you start making judgements on it. There are so many different types of pagans that it's impossible to lump them all together and say they all do or believe or hate one certain thing.

[CDHart]

I wonder who these people are. They obviously don't have to work for a living. I don't know anyone who could just take off to a protest like that, unless they're retired.

Carolyn

[theFIRMbss]

>Pagans are behind Peace, Trade, and Environmental Protests

"That is not dead which can eternal lie,
and with strange eons even death may die."

[biblewonk]

The problem with nations with a lot of pagans is, they are really easy to defeat in a war. Look at Indians here in the US or Africans when rounded up for slave trade. Paganism is so hung up on drugs and sex that they forget things like defense. That hangup still exists. We'd all love to live a hedonistic/pagan life style but it sure puts you in chains after a while.

Did I mention that it also leads to hell.