Welcome To The Hotel California

PipeLineNews.org ^ | June 16, 2003 | William A. Mayer

[johnqueuepublic]

And I didnt post this article to get into a flamewar over minutae (sp?)

I think the point is that its not doom and gloom.

California is treading a dangerous path that really is not of its own making, no one invited the Mexican gov to push its dark skinned people northward. But the policies of the demos in CA make it much worse.

Do you think that illegal aliens should be able to get drivers licenses without having to show real identification?

Virginia closed a similar loophole in their law and now the CA leftislature is trying to create this loophole intentionally.

[johnqueuepublic]

You really think Davis is going away?

R u involved in the movement?

[Joe Hadenuf]

California is treading a dangerous path that really is not of its own making, no one invited the Mexican gov to push its dark skinned people northward. But the policies of the demos in CA make it much worse.

And my point is, is that the entire country is on the same exact path. This is not somehow isolated to Cal.

This pandering to illegals, and attempts to actually decriminalize criminals, is happening in almost every state.

[Joe Hadenuf]

Yes, and yes......

[bedolido]

California is heading for a crash. The state has too much control over the elections and direction of the USA. The perverts in your state senate allow driving by illegal aliens.

why even call them illegal if they're recognized by the state as legal drivers. How can the Federal government deport what the state of California allows?

Until the good people of Calif take back the control of your state, it's going to remain a perversion pit. Kinda like the La Brea tar pits. No bottom and always smells.

[citizen]

Just a small mention....."From there it goes to the governor - who is battling a grassroots recall effort – for signature."

[johnqueuepublic]

Since when is factuality important?

One issue dude with double wide speak with borked tongue

[Joe Hadenuf]

Like I said John, this crap is happening all over the country...Just like the Mexican ID cards, that states are falling all over themselves to accept as legitimate.....

The ease with which the September 11th hijackers were able to get Florida and Virginia drivers' licenses facilitated their ability to carry out their deadly assaults. And even as South Carolina is undertaking an effort to protect its citizens, its efforts are being complicated by recent decisions in neighboring North Carolina and Tennessee to give drivers' licenses to illegal aliens.

This is totally nutso, and I suggest that other states start looking at recalling their own leaders....

[usurper]

Well, from the perspective of an LA native (former valley boy), I am never going back to California. I recently moved from Mission Viejo to eastern Washington and I totally love it.

The only thing California has going for it is good jobs that pay big bucks. However once you realize that housing costs and state taxes take the lion share of your big salary what’s the point? Quality of life? Give me a break, I have three ski areas within an hours drive, outstanding and inexpensive golf courses everywhere, clean water and air, no crime that would ever make KTLA news.

From my California perspective it’s nice to live in a half million dollar house that only cost me 125K. It’s nice for a change not living for a mortgage and having extra cash to actually live.

Just one draw back, I doubt my son will ever be able to find a good career here. I will probably have to send him off to California. LOL

[johnqueuepublic]

Why is Ted Costa witholding so many ballots in the recall drive, whats that all about?

[johnqueuepublic]

You are correct it is happening all over the country, we happen to live in CA so thats where we should be active, do you want Davis or gov Bustamante?

[johnqueuepublic]

BTTT

[Battle Hymn of the Republic]

This is one of the reasons I like the Bay Area...

[johnqueuepublic]

There are many beautiful places in California, there are other beautiful places in other states that dont have an 11% state income tax.

[janetgreen]

Cities are being overrun with illegals - entire villages are being transplanted, bit-by-bit, family-by-family, from Mexico into the Los Angeles environs.

Some of those in other states do not realize how true this statement is. 95% of the politicians, state and federal, are encouraging it, and think it is our responsibility to pay for it while we watch our state look more and more like a third world country.

[janetgreen]

Cities are being overrun with illegals - entire villages are being transplanted, bit-by-bit, family-by-family, from Mexico into the Los Angeles environs.

Some of those in other states do not realize how true this statement is. 95% of the politicians, state and federal, are encouraging it, and think it is our responsibility to pay for it while we watch our state look more and more like a third world country.

[Myrddin]

Even if Red Doofus is removed from office, California still has a staggering $40 billion deficit and a leftist legislature that is taxing and spending the state into 3rd world status. People on the dole own the ballot box in California. Their numbers increase daily with the illegals swelling the voting rolls. There is no way the politicians are going to cut the state largesse to their loyal voting block.

The article makes a neat list of all the reasons to avoid starting or remaining in business in California. Businesses large and small ARE leaving. The tax base is eroding.

The little 1334 sq ft house I sold in Feb 2001 for $242,000 is now on the market for $380,000. Tee hee. What fool would pay that kind of money? It was pricey when I bought it in 1983 for $105,000. I unloaded it at a time when there were still people with good paying jobs who could afford to buy it.

June 3rd marked the one year anniversary of the shutdown of Wingcast in San Diego. Over 200 people with salaries over $100K/yr were dumped. Many of them are still unemployed a year later. Many of them WERE homeowners. Some of them are unemployed homeowners with overpriced property that won't move.

My overall impression is that the folks preparing to leave are a bit slow observing what is going on around them. Better late than never.

[Joe Hadenuf]

The little 1334 sq ft house I sold in Feb 2001 for $242,000 is now on the market for $380,000.

LOL! And you are broadcasting this? Hehehe. Sorry to hear about your misfortune........LOL! Sorry, I couldn't help but laugh.....

[A CA Guy]

How about that new public funding for sex changes for criminals in prison? That passed last month, no joke!

[Myrddin]

I could be trapped in a piece overpriced real estate and unemployed...like many of the Wingcast people. I could be facing 12% state income tax (up from 9.3%). I could be painting out gang graffiti from my retaining wall every weekend. I could be paying $1,200 to get my Porsche 914 ready for another Smog Check II. I could be paying astronomical car insurance rates and outrageous state registration fees. I could be sitting in a traffic jam for 40 to 70 minutes every morning to drive 7.5 miles to work.

I left California. My state income tax is 7.8% now. There is no gang graffiti ANYWHERE in my town. No smog checks required for my cars. Dirt cheap registation of my cars. Cheap insurance for my cars. I own my 3900 sq ft house on .33 acre lot in a very high end neighborhood. No mortgage! No gun control laws...I can buy anything I want. A CCW permit. I'm nearly debt free now. I work from my home office...no traffic. Laugh away.