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Rabbis said to call for 'transfer' of Arabs
Jerusalem Post ^ | Jun. 15, 2003 | ABIGAIL RADOSZKOWICZ

Posted on 06/16/2003 8:31:43 AM PDT by yonif

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To: carton253
This time, the USA is fighting the war too. It's a whole new ballgame, and the ace closer is on the mound.
21 posted on 06/16/2003 1:08:50 PM PDT by thoughtomator (Road Map = Road Kill)
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To: thoughtomator
Oh really?

I'm not demeaning the American or Israeli military. They are the two finest on the planet.

But the difference between the Japanese/Nazis and the Arabs is that the Nazis/Japanese understood what defeat was Once defeated, they were willing to lay down the fight and live in peace. Your scenario suggest that once defeated, the Arabs would lay down the fight and live in peace.

Their history suggests the exact opposite.

22 posted on 06/16/2003 1:21:35 PM PDT by carton253 (You are free to form your own opinions, but not your own facts.)
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To: per loin
All Arabs should be given the right of return. To their homeland in Arabia.

I'd vote for returning the Egyptian Yasser Arafat to h*ll.

23 posted on 06/16/2003 1:41:10 PM PDT by Cachelot (~ In waters near you ~)
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To: yonif
One can't describe all the Palestinians living in Israel as terrorist supporters.

Right. I think the recent poll only showed something like, what, 98% support for continuing terror attacks against Israeli civilians?

MM

24 posted on 06/16/2003 1:44:41 PM PDT by MississippiMan
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To: carton253
Peace has not been the aftermath.

Because the US and the UN persuaded Israel to give up most of what was won. This time, there'll be nothing but scorched earth left of these critters. Then Israel can get on with the business of peace - of course with 17 nukes pointed at every Arab city. And personally, I hope the firing buttons are ticklish enough to go off if a fly lands on one.

25 posted on 06/16/2003 1:49:11 PM PDT by Cachelot (~ In waters near you ~)
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To: carton253
What history suggests is that merely losing a war does not suffice for the level of defeat necessary. The Japanese were not just defeated, they were defeated completely, totally at the mercy of their enemies - the Germans, likewise.

The Islamikazis have not seen that level of defeat since the days of Stalin, and as such do not believe that they were defeated, merely set back a step.

What needs be done is to totally crush any regime that supports terror. Retaliation for terror attacks should be wildly disproportionate. For example, if another bombing attack occurs in Jerusalem, erase Ramallah from the map, Arafat included. Another major attack like the Passover attack last year, exterminate every resident of Gaza City.

Sooner or later they'll either wise up, or we'll have killed them all off... either way, problem solved.

26 posted on 06/16/2003 1:51:10 PM PDT by thoughtomator (Road Map = Road Kill)
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To: thoughtomator
Got it...
27 posted on 06/16/2003 4:07:46 PM PDT by carton253 (You are free to form your own opinions, but not your own facts.)
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To: carton253
Their history suggests the exact opposite.
Scripture states it exactly:

NIV Genesis 16:7-12
 7.  The angel of the LORD found Hagar near a spring in the desert; it was the spring that is beside the road to Shur.
 8.  And he said, "Hagar, servant of Sarai, where have you come from, and where are you going?"   "I'm running away from my mistress Sarai," she answered.
 9.  Then the angel of the LORD told her, "Go back to your mistress and submit to her."
 10.  The angel added, "I will so increase your descendants that they will be too numerous to count."
 11.  The angel of the LORD also said to her: "You are now with child and you will have a son. You shall name him Ishmael, for the LORD has heard of your misery.
 12.  He will be a wild donkey of a man; his hand will be against everyone and everyone's hand against him, and he will live in hostility toward  all his brothers."

28 posted on 06/16/2003 4:30:04 PM PDT by Elsie (Any misspellings are caused by a sticky keyboard!!)
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To: yonif
I doubt they'll leave voluntarily; just throw them out.

The Official Kahane website

29 posted on 06/16/2003 5:49:58 PM PDT by UbIwerks
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To: willowpar
http://www.mechon-mamre.org/jewfaq/gentiles.htm

Rotfl. Using that special version, so popular with those special sites?

http://www.hoffman-info.com/talmudtruth.html
http://www.stormfront.org/jewish/talmud.html

30 posted on 06/16/2003 5:53:35 PM PDT by Cachelot (~ In waters near you ~)
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To: UbIwerks
I doubt they'll leave voluntarily; just throw them out.

Bbbbbut where will they go........when no other arab country would be willing to take them in. (knowing them
as they do!)

/sarcasm

My patience grows weary.
31 posted on 06/16/2003 6:05:42 PM PDT by tet68 (Jeremiah 51:24 ..."..Before your eyes I will repay Babylon for all the wrong they have done in Zion")
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To: Cachelot
Rotfl. Using that special version, so popular with those special sites?

Special sites? What exactly are you insinuating this time? From their website:

Mechon Mamre is a small group of ultra-observant Jewish Torah scholars in Israel who live by the plain and simple meaning of the RaMBaM's Mishneh Torah and actively encourage others to do so. Most of us belong to the mainstream "Baladi" Yemenite Jewish community, continuing the tradition of living by the Mishneh Torah since the very days when the RaMBaM lived, and are students of the Rav Yosef ben-Dawid QaafiH zS"l (the leading rabbinical expert in recent generations on the teachings of the RaMBaM in general and on his Mishneh Torah in particular).

Our original main purpose in this site was to put before you (whether Jew or Gentile) the most accurate currently available version of the Mishneh Torah Code in its entirety, to provide you with guidance for its proper study and understanding, and to encourage you to actually observe its clear and brief formulation of the divine laws. But we soon realized that since the Oral Law and the Written Law are ultimately one and they should be learned and observed together, we needed to complete our online Torah-learning resources by adding the Hebrew Bible in various versions tailored to the needs of learners at differing stages in their learning.

Mechon Mamre 12 Hayyim Vital St. Jerusalem, ISRAEL 972-2-652-1906

Do you have a problem with these people for some reason?

32 posted on 06/16/2003 6:40:14 PM PDT by willowpar
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To: tet68
Bbbbbut where will they go........when no other arab country would be willing to take them in. (knowing them as they do!) /sarcasm My patience grows weary.

After they're forced to leave Israel, I don't care where they go.

33 posted on 06/16/2003 6:45:49 PM PDT by UbIwerks
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To: willowpar
Special sites? What exactly are you insinuating this time?

You are using a very odd version, not exactly mainstream, and mostly popular with neonazi sites such as hoffman-info and stormfront - where your exact quotes can be found.

How very strange ;).

34 posted on 06/16/2003 8:01:13 PM PDT by Cachelot (~ In waters near you ~)
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To: Cachelot
I provided a link to a reputable and authoritative source and you attempt to mischaracterize it as being somehow neonazi related - the only thing strange going on here is your obsessive nazi paranoia. I hear they have new medications that can help treat people with your disorder - why don't you do yourself a favor and look into it.
35 posted on 06/16/2003 8:37:28 PM PDT by willowpar
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To: willowpar
I provided a link to a reputable and authoritative

No :).

36 posted on 06/16/2003 8:39:18 PM PDT by Cachelot (~ In waters near you ~)
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To: Cachelot
No :)

Is that the best you can do, troll? Why don't you google up one of your Kahane sites - maybe you'll be able to find a refutation of this group there.

37 posted on 06/16/2003 9:09:46 PM PDT by willowpar
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To: Elsie
I absolutely agree with that...
38 posted on 06/17/2003 5:09:06 AM PDT by carton253 (You are free to form your own opinions, but not your own facts.)
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To: willowpar; Cachelot
Hey tex ;)...the Rabbi is not suggesting anything that has not been suggested by some Conservatives, like Cal Thomas, the most widely syndicated journalist in the country, and a FoxNews contributor.

A coalition of terror

-snip-"The Jews have misplaced their faith. Gifted with thinking the best about human potential, Jews have made decisions that too often are not in their interests -- such as allowing mortal enemies to live among them and giving up land seized for their own protection after five wars and numerous terrorist attacks.

Israel should declare its intention to transfer large numbers of its Palestinian residents to Arab nations. This sounds radical until one considers that is precisely what Kuwait and Saudi Arabia have done. After the Palestinians assisted Saddam Hussein in Iraq's invasion of Kuwait during the Gulf War (which Arafat cheered while calling on Hussein to shell Israel), Kuwait forcibly evicted and transferred to Jordan about 300,000 Palestinians, labeling them as traitors and a fifth column. Saudi Arabia also recognized Arafat's betrayal of their Kuwaiti hosts by transferring about 350,000 Palestinians to Jordan.

Those diplomats who regularly denounce Israel for any perceived slight against Palestinians were noticeably silent about these transfers. As Emanuel Winston writes in a another commentary: "No Arab country, other than Jordan, trusts or welcomes Palestinians into its country as citizens. Even the radical Arab nations of Syria (and) Lebanon (under Syrian control), Iraq and Iran keep them segregated in squalid refugee camps, knowing full well their reputation for breaking agreements and conspiring against their host government.''

How quickly we forget "Black September'' in 1970. Arafat tried to overthrow King Hussein of Jordan. Hussein killed thousands and drove Arafat and his Palestinians into Lebanon. Arafat, who had broken numerous agreements by then, began a 12-year reign of terror against Christian and Muslim Lebanese. More than 100,000 Lebanese were murdered. raped and tortured by Arafat's Palestinians. The current model of "land for peace'' is not working, nor can it work given the objectives of Arafat and Israel's other enemies. Eviction is a better avenue to stability. Will it happen? Probably not. Should it? Yes."

39 posted on 06/17/2003 5:11:55 AM PDT by veronica (http://www.petitiononline.com/KN50711/petition.html - Confirm Daniel Pipes to USIP ......sign this!)
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To: willowpar; Cachelot; veronica
I provided a link to a reputable and authoritative source and you attempt to mischaracterize it as being somehow neonazi related - the only thing strange going on here is your obsessive nazi paranoia. I hear they have new medications that can help treat people with your disorder - why don't you do yourself a favor and look into it.

It’s not so much the source, rather your interpretation.

I don’t know if they’re reputable or authoritative or not, they’re a small group of Yemenite Jews (their description) living in Israel and maintaining a website.

What is bizarre is your interpretation that Apparently this would exclude Christians from living in the Holy Land. Total nonsense, refuted by present day facts, and an opinion espoused exclusively on white supremacist and jihadist sites, citing your source as proof. Some of the best neonazi sites, I might add.

If you’d read the quote you provided, you’d note it says it is not just being a member of a denomination in which the majority are believers in the Trinity that is idolatry, but personal idolatrous practice, whatever the individual's affiliation. You, not the source, seem to be suggesting that Christians are idolaters, pretty silly. But if that’s your premise, fine, post a vanity in the religion forum, I’m sure you’ll get some answers.

40 posted on 06/17/2003 6:41:30 AM PDT by SJackson
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