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To: DPB101
In all sincerity, my God, this is terrible. I wasn't even aware of it. How could this guy state that it was only Russians and a few eggs need to be broken. Geez Louise, the press is capable of rationalizing anything away aren't they.
3 posted on 06/15/2003 8:58:54 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: DoughtyOne; Gareth_Jones_Archives; Liz; Fracas
The New York Times is in a world of hurt when a writer from The Nation Magazine and The Moscow Times accuses the paper of being sympathetic to communism.

Gareth Jones is the Welsh reporter who first reported on the Holodomor. His great nephew posted on Free Republic earlier today here:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/927713/posts?page=31#31

The Jones family is understandably delighted that Gareth is finally receiving the recognition he deserves (Gareth was only 29 when he killed by bandits in Munchukuo while investigation Japanese expansion into Northern China).

A great archive of articles by Gareth Jones, Malcolm Muggeridge and the notorious 1933 "omelet" Moscow dispatch by Walter Duranty is at the Jones website here:

http://colley.co.uk/garethjones/

4 posted on 06/15/2003 9:10:38 PM PDT by DPB101 ("Smearing good people like Alger Hiss and Lauchlin Currie is . . .unforgivable"---Eleanor Roosevelt)
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To: DoughtyOne
"Geez Louise, the press is capable of rationalizing anything away aren't they."

Yes, and they're still at it.

7 posted on 06/15/2003 9:17:33 PM PDT by Savage Beast (Truth is the only "newspaper of record".)
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To: DoughtyOne
Actually, even the US goverment was pretty taken in by Stalin. In 1944 Vice President Henry Wallace visited the "Gulag" to put to rest rumors about death camps run by the Russians, similar to the Nazi camps.

From Kolyma - Land of Gold and Death, by Stanislav Kovalski:

"One dose of Stalin's "truth" was presented to the American Vice-President, Henry Wallace, when in 1944 he visited Kolyma. After the visit he left the country with the absolute conviction that "no such camps existed," in total agreement with the British philosopher, Bertrand Russell. Whatever was shown to the man who held one of the highest offices in the USA he accepted it as the truth and presented it in his book "Soviet Asia Mission." From this book the American reader learned that the gold miners of Kolyma are "big husky young men who came out to the Far East from European Russia," and who were "pioneers of machine age, builders of cities." He was greatly impressed with Kolyma's director Nikishov and his wife Gridassova, with Magadan's cultural life and with the shops full of Russian goods. The truth was that during his three-day stay the chiefs of Kolyma did their best to conceal the factual reality. The wooden watchtowers were pulled down, the prisoners were not allowed to leave their barracks and not even the least aspect of prison life was exposed to the American visitor. He was taken to the only farm in the region, 23 kilometers from Magadan, where well dressed and well fed girls, (police women disguised as swineherds), gave a false impression of the agricultural endeavor in that part of the country. He was also flown to the North, to the mine Berelakh, where he found the state mining to be an impressive enterprise."

"The miners, according to him, were healthy and well-clad men, and more productive than their counterparts in Alaska's Fairbanks. Being served with delicious fresh fish from Kolyma River he offered his compliments to the "presiding chef of the mining camp." The deception was total and successful. The outside world got the firsthand knowledge about Kolyma from the man who deserved his trust. Who would disbelieve or dispute information from the Vice-President of the United States of America, a force for truth and justice? "

9 posted on 06/15/2003 9:34:58 PM PDT by struwwelpeter (Ukrainian vodka = gorilka (aka 'little gorilla'))
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To: DoughtyOne
The definitive history book on this is Harvest of Sorrow, by Robert Conquest. At the time (he wrote while the Evil Empire still was that) his book was dismissed by the NYT among others as an anti-Soviet fabrication.

There is a chapter that deals with Duranty in depth and notes that the Times still stands by his reporting.

After the fall of Communism and the opening of Stalin's archives, Conquest issued an updated version of the book... but his research had been so good, basically he just had more footnotes to support the same facts.

d.o.l.

Criminal Number 18F
25 posted on 06/16/2003 4:38:20 AM PDT by Criminal Number 18F
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