[djf]

I have speant a great deal of time trying to formulate thought experiments to find (or create, if need be) some type of solid foundation of reality.
I started like this: Make some sort of causal statement that is always true, eg. "It's raining outside, so the road is wet"
Well, mostly true, but not always. There might be a car parked on the road, it's dry underneath. Part of the road might be very warm from the sun, the first few drops evaporated, etc.

So I abandoned any attempts at finding some sort of absolute causation. So now I work on tautologies, like this one:
A) The fire truck is lime green
B) Statement A) is either true or false
C) Statement B) is true

Anytime we can find things that nust be true, we are approaching the grand scheme of things. Eventually, perhaps we will discover whether we are discovering things or in fact actualy creating realities. I am certainly very comfortable with us simply being discoverers, but I think the science is pointing in the direction that we are in fact active participants, and in some respect minor players, but co-creators. If that is true, it would bear an incredible moral burden.

[betty boop]

I am certainly very comfortable with us simply being discoverers, but I think the science is pointing in the direction that we are in fact active participants, and in some respect minor players, but co-creators. If that is true, it would bear an incredible moral burden.

Funny you should mention that, djf. My own recent speculations have been running along similar lines. And I've drawn the same provisional corollary: "It's an incredible moral burden."

[unspun]

...incredible moral burden.

Yes a moral burden -- very credibly so. Bearing it, may we accept the way of ceasing our incredible regards and behavior.

[Alamo-Girl]

Thank y'all so much for your posts! And please, make that three on "It's an incredible moral burden."